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captbunzo

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Ladies & Gentlemen,

I am just about ready to add another fish to my tank and have some uncertainty about my fish plan. So, I was hoping someone here might have some good input for me. Let me describe what I am working with.

First, the tank...
It is a 29G tank with a 10G sump/refugium below. Total water volume is somewhere around 35 Gallons, I believe.

Next, currently stocked stuff...
In the main tank, I have one fish - a lawnmower blenny. More significant mobile inverts include a cleaner shrimp, two peppermint shrimp, an emerald crab, a fighting conch, and then a small pile of various hermit crabs and snails. I also have a brown/tan serpent star and a black brittle star in there. In the sump I have about 4 nassarius snails and a chunk of chaetomorpha.

Oh, and I should mention that the tank contains a small pile of softy corals. They seem to be doing quite well.

Current plan ideas...
My wife and had been leaning pretty strongly toward getting a couple of clownfish. I was thinking about Cinnimon Clownfish as they seem to be small enough to be passible for my tank size and are a little different then the average Percula or Ocellaris that most people choose. (No offense, clownfish owners...)

However, I have been thinking that before I added the clowns, I would like to add a small docile fish of some sorts. My thoughts had strayed quite a bit toward gobies, especially the sorts that will sift sand. However, I am not sure I found a good small sand sifting goby. Maybe I am remembering wrong.

And, just for a recap, the fish would be as follows in that plan:
  1. Lawnmower Blenny (in tank already)
  2. UNKNOWN FISH, POSSIBLY SAND-SIFTING GOBY
  3. Clownfish #1
  4. Clownfish #2 (same breed as clownfish #1, added simultaneously)
Upon some further exploration, I ran into the Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse. It met the criteria for being clownfish and blenny compatible, compatible with my tank size, etc. And it is beautiful. So, I did some more research and really fell in love with this little fish.

CoralRealm_CarpentersFlasherWrasse.jpg


And that fish #2 above became a Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse. Then I read how they are great in groups (1 male, 1+ female) as the male will then flash more regularly for the female(s), showing off it's brilliant colors. So maybe fish #2 became 2a and 2b?

Now, I have a choice to make. You guys can (please!!!) give me some input on the wisdom of these choices.

First Option: 2-3 Wrasse Only
Abandon the idea of clownfish and just go for 2-3 of the above wrasse. The idea would be to get a male and 1 or 2 female, as the male will then show off it's colors more, etc.

Fish Count: 3
... 1 Lawnmower Blenny
... 2 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse

Second Option: 1 Wrasse & 2 Clownfish
Go for the a single wrasse now, and then add the cinnamon clownfish later.

Fish Count: 4
... 1 Lawnmower Blenny
... 1 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
... 2 Cinnamon Clownfish

Third Option: 2 Wrasse & 2 Clownfish
Go for the pair of wrasse now, and then add the cinnamon clownfish later.

Fish Count: 5
... 1 Lawnmower Blenny
... 2 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
... 2 Cinnamon Clownfish

Fourth Option: 2 Wrasse & 1 Clownfish
Go for the pair of wrasse now, and then add a single cinnamon clownfish later.

Fish Count: 4
... 1 Lawnmower Blenny
... 2 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
... 1 Cinnamon Clownfish

My personal favorite is the Third Option with both the wrasse and the clownfish. However, my concern is whether that would overload my tank, either concerning bioload or overcrowding.

And now specific questions...
First of all, any and all suggestions are welcome.

Secondly, here are some specific questions that I had in mind:
  1. How am I doing on tank load? I feel this might be pushing it a bit, but perhaps still within ok ranges of fish count and compatability.
  2. Next, the clowns. Anyone have an opinion on the type of clowns that I add to my tank? Percula and Ocellaris are good options as well. Would either of them be a better choice for my tank and allow me to go with Option Three above?
Well, anyhow. I think that wraps it up. I look forward to hearing what you guys have to say. Thank you for your time and energy.[/list]
 

Len

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Hey Paul

:welcome:

I'd limit the 29 to three or four fish max. The lighter the load, the healthier and easier to keep the tank will be. That said, how about one clown, one wrasse, and one goby? These would occupy different niches in the small ecosystem.

The problem with two wrasses is that there is a strong possibility they will fight, at least for a while. The dominant speciment might harrass the other to the point of death. In a 29 gallon, there simply isn't any room to run and hide. While it's good to keep flasher wrasses in harems of one male to several females, it's not advisable in a 29 gallon. My personal opinion is to stick with one wrasse to err on the side of caution.

Clowns .... one or two are fine. Regardless, I'd start with juneviles, preferably captive bred ones as they are hardier and more docile. Percs and Ocellaris would be tops on my list for your size tank, both for their hardiness, demeanor, and availaiblity.
 
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I agree with Len on this. 5 fish in a 29 is a LOT of bioload. I know because I'm doing it right now. I have an engineer goby, a clarkii and 3 golden chromis in mine! And I have almost the same set up. 29g tank with 11g in the sump, so 40g total. Keeping things clean is a major issue for me, and I only feed that tank maybe once a week!

If I could do it all over again, I'd go with 3 fish total. The 2 Clarkii's and the engineer, I really love that fish!
 

SnowManSnow

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You may consider somthing a little different. For instance.

1 lawnmower blenny
1 clown
1 6-line wrase

I know that this works because these are the fish I have in my 37 G reef.

Personally, I would advise against more than 4 fish in a tank this size. Even with a great skimmer, regular water changes, and cleaning the tank may become difficult to manage.

B.
 
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Anonymous

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I have kept one Carpenters flasher wrasse and he seemed just fine all by hisself. I would just do one in a tank that size.

And please note, every little bit of the top of your tank needs to be covered, or you WILL find him on the floor one day.

I would go with a percula or ocellaris clown, not a cinnamon clown. Any of the "tomato type" clownfish get all mean and nasty when they get big. I have a pair of them that are in their teens now, they are big and mean and they can make you bleed if they bite you even with rubber gloves on! I actually took them out of my tank and gave them one of their own so I would not have to be consantly attacked when I needed to move a coral.
 

captbunzo

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Ok. I have been reasonably convinced that cinnamon's are a bad plan. I will consider percula/occelaris in a month or two. For now, I may get either a single or pair of carpenter's this weekend - depending on what they have been able to get at the LFS.
 

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