question about Fish order???

[new-2-the reef]

I just got rid of my six damsel fish this morning from my tank...wow what a hassle that was ,taking out all of my live rock stirring things up just to catch those little guys.
One good thing about it I guess is I rearranged my live rock to my liking a bit more then how it was set up originally ...(took some picture's now on the photography thread or my sig)

my question is.. what is the order of fish that I am going to get ,that will not create a problem when entering them into tank

My 1st choice of fish will be 2 CLOWN'S next weekend,then what should I get after that??? or should I enter something befor the Clowns?
keep in mind I want to eventually set up a minor reef tank(until I become more of a PRO like so many of ya on here)
please anyone make a few suggestions for me ,so I do not make a mistake....like the one I made of entering 6 damsel's....

I also like those tang's both blue and yellow..gobies and wrasse fish

 

[FinalPhaze987]

most people advise to add the least aggressive first...let the more peacefull fish establish their territory then slowly add the others...make sure the wrasse you add are going to be compatible..ive seen some pick fish apart..from what i remember you have a 55 gal? a blue tang might not be too suitable for that size...they need PLENTY of swimming room..gobys are great but do some research on their diets...if it feeds strictly on micro crustaceans they may starve if you dont have an adequate population...you have plenty of live rock which is good but you may want to wait a few more months until youve established a god amt....(were waiting anxiously ourselves. hahaha) what type of clowns are you adding? some are more aggressive than others...tomatoes for example might not be the best fish to add first..

hope this helps..best of luck to you..

 

[new-2-the reef]

most people advise to add the least aggressive first...let the more peacefull fish establish their territory then slowly add the others...make sure the wrasse you add are going to be compatible..ive seen some pick fish apart..from what i remember you have a 55 gal? a blue tang might not be too suitable for that size...they need PLENTY of swimming room..gobys are great but do some research on their diets...if it feeds strictly on micro crustaceans they may starve if you dont have an adequate population...you have plenty of live rock which is good but you may want to wait a few more months until youve established a god amt....(were waiting anxiously ourselves. hahaha) what type of clowns are you adding? some are more aggressive than others...tomatoes for example might not be the best fish to add first..

hope this helps..best of luck to you..

thanks Final..

I want to add 2 ocellaris clowns...

as far as the micro crustaceans how will I notice I have enough befor I can add a goby?

thanks again Clint

 

[Brian5000]

Mandarins are the big one as far as micro-crustaceans go. You need a lot of live rock with natural prey to keep one going in a community tank (even if you use live food, they won't compete with other fish for food). Stay away from these.

Shrimp gobies require a deep sand bed and a matching shrimp (often difficult to acquire together).

Many other gobies and blennies eat algea and require the growth of an established aquarium to survive.

If you're looking for small fish, I recommend a yellow clown goby. It's very visible despite it's size and eats frozen fish food. I thought it was a nice fish when I had one.

Clowns are not aggressive at all to anything other than clowns. Feel free to add these any time you wish.
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[FinalPhaze987]

most people advise to add the least aggressive first...let the more peacefull fish establish their territory then slowly add the others...make sure the wrasse you add are going to be compatible..ive seen some pick fish apart..from what i remember you have a 55 gal? a blue tang might not be too suitable for that size...they need PLENTY of swimming room..gobys are great but do some research on their diets...if it feeds strictly on micro crustaceans they may starve if you dont have an adequate population...you have plenty of live rock which is good but you may want to wait a few more months until youve established a god amt....(were waiting anxiously ourselves. hahaha) what type of clowns are you adding? some are more aggressive than others...tomatoes for example might not be the best fish to add first..

hope this helps..best of luck to you..

thanks Final..

I want to add 2 ocellaris clowns...

as far as the micro crustaceans how will I notice I have enough befor I can add a goby?

thanks again Clint

Its kinda hard to say...it comes naturally with your tanks age but certain conditions also play a major factor in the pod population...i did some research on this myself not too long ago (we want a mandarin ourselves) and came to the conclusion that we have no choice but to wait. We dose our tank with DT's which defiantly helps, and employ a rather large refugium, which allows them a safe place to grow, flourish, and ofcourse, reproduce...we also have about 250 lbs of live rock which is great...

all that said, even though our conditions may be right for encouraging pod population, we do not want to take the risk in purchasing a goby just yet...

if the population is not adequate, it may wipe out a majority of them before starving and then eventually dieing...

give it some time...theres a whole lot of other fish you can look into without having to worry about...once you feel your tank it matured and ready, post here and see what others think..

its kinda hard to put a time frame on something like that, but to give you an idea, we are waiting about a year and a half to 2 years before we attempt to add a small mandarin...

 

[new-2-the reef]

thank you final for the help...

I am definatly going to wait until tank is well established befor adding a goby

Clint.

 

[Klgocke]

Clint,

I was just browsing the forum and wanted to share my experience with gobies with you. I have now had two shrimp gobies (one of which was eaten by a hitchhiker crab). The original was a "barbershop" goby and I bought him from my LFS with a Randalli pistol shrimp. After he died I waited about a month and bought a unpaired yellow watchman goby (During that interim time the shrimp didnt show much of itself, only reason I knew he was there was the occasional "snapping" noise). After two days of wandering around the tank, the goby paired with the shrimp and they have been inseparable ever since (half a year).

I have thoroughly enjoyed their teamwork, and mine are just fine in a 1 and a half inch substrate. Although make sure your rockwork is stable and on the glass.

I would recommend looking into these interesting guys, and see if thats something you might like. Neither were hard to feed (both accepted frozen brine shrimp) and both actually take food into their mouths and (Im assuming) let it out at the front of their burrow for the shrimp.

My tank is a small, 26g, peaceful community tank, with a bangaii cardinal pair and an ocellaris clown pair. I love the interesting behaviors of all of these fish. Again just sharing my experience, dont know how these guys have worked for everyone, but they would be and interesting addition to anyones (peaceful) tank IMO.

 

[new-2-the reef]

Clint,

I was just browsing the forum and wanted to share my experience with gobies with you. I have now had two shrimp gobies (one of which was eaten by a hitchhiker crab). The original was a "barbershop" goby and I bought him from my LFS with a Randalli pistol shrimp. After he died I waited about a month and bought a unpaired yellow watchman goby (During that interim time the shrimp didnt show much of itself, only reason I knew he was there was the occasional "snapping" noise). After two days of wandering around the tank, the goby paired with the shrimp and they have been inseparable ever since (half a year).

I have thoroughly enjoyed their teamwork, and mine are just fine in a 1 and a half inch substrate. Although make sure your rockwork is stable and on the glass.

I would recommend looking into these interesting guys, and see if thats something you might like. Neither were hard to feed (both accepted frozen brine shrimp) and both actually take food into their mouths and (Im assuming) let it out at the front of their burrow for the shrimp.

My tank is a small, 26g, peaceful community tank, with a bangaii cardinal pair and an ocellaris clown pair. I love the interesting behaviors of all of these fish. Again just sharing my experience, dont know how these guys have worked for everyone, but they would be and interesting addition to anyones (peaceful) tank IMO.

thanks for your help

as a matter of fact I was just at lfs tonight and they had the pistol shrimp and another goby not the yellow one you talk of but some other typr 9it was all white almost clear looking ) but the employee at the store was explaining to me how they work...very interesting !!

I liked how they will work together and how they watch over each other very kool

something im definately going to look into

thanks again
Clint