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magarnigel

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i was wondering which meters would be good for testing the salinity, ph, etc..i used the cheap plastic hydrometer for a while but just dont really trust them. i figured its time to splurge for a nice decent digital unit. what would you guys suggest to do a lot of the testing for my tank? thanks ahead of time...
 

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yes, purchase a refractometer. they are 30-40 bucks. i have 2 swing arm hydrometers. one says my tank water is .021, the other says it's .026. actually, it was .025. :wink:
 

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If I had money to burn, I would really enjoy having this stuff:

http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/1002/cid/198

Maybe Santa will bring me one for Xmas? 8O


AquaticEco has a lot of other instruments/kits for water quality too. We get most of our lab equipment (including water quality stuff - we use Hach colorimetrer stuff) from here. Anyway, you should look around their site, most stuff on there is high quality or science grade.
 

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Mthompson":3pg459ie said:
If I had money to burn, I would really enjoy having this stuff:

http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/1002/cid/198

Maybe Santa will bring me one for Xmas? 8O


AquaticEco has a lot of other instruments/kits for water quality too. We get most of our lab equipment (including water quality stuff - we use Hach colorimetrer stuff) from here. Anyway, you should look around their site, most stuff on there is high quality or science grade.

somehow i don't think i was quite that good this year for santa to treat me so well.
 

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get a refractometer for salinity. for everything else (pH, calcium, alkalinity, nitrate, phosphate,...) use a Salifert Test kit. I love those things. They are pretty accurate, but a little pricey.

BTW, the alkalinity test kits for Salifert did have some problems recently, something about a bad batch or something. Just FYI.
 

Mthompson

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Conductivity can be converted to salinity if you also know the temp (C). There are calculators online, or you can start an excel file (or other spreadsheet) and just input the formula and copy/paste. I would try to use the online calculators, as the equation is a bit confusing (see attachment).

This equation gives you a more precise measurement of Salinity (+/- 0.0001), whereas a refractometer's resolution is broader (+/- 0.2 - 0.5%). Either way you measure, if you make the data file, it is easier to see what trends your tanks exhibit over time. This can come in useful if you have a problem down the road (plus, its cool if you are nerdy like most of us to make graphs and the like).
 

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magarnigel

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maybe i will just get a regular refracto. this way i have a better chance at avoiding human error when it comes to the calculation and then just buy the individual test kits for ph, calcium, and so on. should any refractor be fine?
 

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I would look for one with a knob (instead of screw) for calibration, just makes it a bit easier. Other than that, the higher priced ones usually have high resolution and accuracy. Oh, and make sure it automatically adjusts for temperature (should say in the description).
 

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Mthompson":1z5k56p1 said:
I would look for one with a knob (instead of screw) for calibration, just makes it a bit easier. Other than that, the higher priced ones usually have high resolution and accuracy. Oh, and make sure it automatically adjusts for temperature (should say in the description).

how would i judge which ones have the knob vs screw? im lookin at both of the ones at dr fosters and they look virtually identical. should i assume they are both screw adjustment then?
 
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For this hobby, we don't need to use the conductivity-salinity formula with such a complicated polynominal. A simple lookup table is suffice in almost all the cases.

Anyway, one thing that I want to point out that conductivity/salinity/TDS/resistivity meter usually does not have a wide dynamic range. Before you buy a conductivity meter, for example, make sure it is applicable for freshwater or seawater. A lot of the time, it only will work in one extreme, but not the other.
 

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Mthompson":c50w8o9o said:
The one that is 109.99 has a calibration ring. You just rotate it to adjust to a standard solution.

This one (http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem~idProduct~CP2113.html) is $20 cheaper, and has a calibration knob and is temperature compensating. I plan to get it one of these days. I currently bring samples in to our lab to test...

ah ok i see the difference. maybe i will give that one a shot then. thanks i really appreciate the help.
 

Mthompson

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Yeah, but I find that monitors/probes kinda take the fun out of the science....there's nothing like a good ol' fashioned titration!!!
 

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personally, i don't see any real problem with using a little screwdriver instead of turning a knob and keeping 30 bucks in my pocket.
you don't have to adjust that every time. perhaps just once.
buy the cheaper one. it will work fine.
 

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