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jmsandy

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Hey guys, I will post some pics of my new tank set up in a bit. It looks amazing. With this said I have two mushroom corals in it and the tank has been running for about two weeks now and it just spiked (i think) The Nitrate is at 10, ammonia is at .25 and the Nitrite is at 0..Are these normal and when can I expect the cycle to be complete. Any suggestions? Should I try a water change in a week?

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Temp is 80 degrees and salinity is .123 Anythingelse I need ot be testing?
 

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yeah, i'd put them in the other tank for now. the easy way of seeing how far along you tank is in the cylcing progess is ammonia will go down nitrite will go up. then as they break down,your nitrate will go up. add a damsel or clownfish it help speed the cycling up.
 

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don't add fish to "speed the cycle up". just wait. ammonia, and nitrite are toxic. why would you put a fish in a toxic enviornment?

also, i would not have any living creatures, besides hitch hikers in the tank until it is cycled (ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate are zero)
 

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cycles usually take quite a bit of time, at least 8-12 weeks in most cases. first ammonia will spike, followed by nitrite, then nitrate. ammonia and nitrite are toxic. once your ammonia and nitrite are down to 0 and your nitrate jumps way up there, your cycle is almost done. the only thing really left to do is a water change to remove all the excess nitrate. at this point, if the cycle is 100% complete, all of you ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate readings should be 0. if you still get a reading of any of these, you need to wait a little while longer. test again, following with more water changes and more testing. once everything is stable, and remain at readings of 0, then you should be done.

once the cycle is done, don't rush in with a ton of fish/corals/inverts. i'd get a cleanup crew, which will be mostly a variety of snails and hermit crabs. let that go for a little while, then begin to add a couple of fish. again, don't rush it, just a few fish (depending on tank size). i'd recommend a well known hardy fish like the chromis or damsel. but remember, as damsels get older/bigger they can get very aggressive. chromis can also get aggressive (they are in the same family as damsels - Pomacentridae) but tend to be more community friendly. small gobies and clownfish (also from the Pomacentridae family) also tend to be fairly hardy.
 

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Just out of new experience,

I had put my tank up about 3 months ago. It took about one month to see a drop in ammonia, nitrate, nitrite but I think that was partly due to buying cured live rock every week until I was satisfied with my setup. I still want 2 small pieces but right now all the levels are next to nothing.

Anyways, my ultimate point was I did not see any drop in two weeks but I did see 2 major major spikes within the first months time frame; after that its been nothing but quite.

I will not go so far as to say do not do a water change, as everyone in every forum and blog suggests to do this. However, in my recent experience I have not done a single water change and I have not had any problems with levels. Even when the water had high ammonia, it went away; presumably imo from the high water flow that I have in my tank.

I do agree that you put the mushrooms in a bit pre-maturely
 

jmsandy

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well i should precurse this by saying that the tank had been running for a week and a half before I put the mushrooms in. Furthermore, ALL the rock AND sand AND water came from a pre-established tank that had been running for two or three years. So I figured the cycle would minimal if non-existent. Obviously I was wrong....

Any comments?
 

Capslock

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Well even though the sand and live rock came from an established tank there is still going to be die-off simply from transportation and changes from one environment to the next.

It is similar to why you need to acclimate your fish / coral when purchasing them. They are coming from one system that may have 82 degrees F, with a salinity of 1.026 and going to a different system that is 88 degrees F with a salinity of 1.024; as an example.
 

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some marine life isn't meant to touch air. when you pull rocks out of a tank, and wrap them in wet newspaper, and transport them to your house, i would think that particular rock would need to be re-cured.

with or without waterchanges, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate will zero out eventually, but you have a living creature(s) in your tank. i would be doing waterchanges simply to dilute any toxic levels , so not to kill my corals/fish/inverts.
 

jmsandy

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ok you guys sold me, I will test my levels again today and if still high I will drag my arss to the store and get some RO water and do a water change...

You guys wouldnt buy any snails right now to eat away at my algae that has sprouted up on the sand bed would you?
 

jmsandy

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oh yah, sorry guys, I will get pics to you asap because the aquascape looks great (I am a lil worried about it shifting or falling as I put it direclty on a DSP. Also the rock is close to the glass in some spots making it difficult to clean. I left a good amount of room in the back though because I as I have a corner tank and not a reg 55 gallon tank I thought it wise to have front and back for the fish to use as their territory so I may put more fish in. If all the rock is against the back of hte tank I figured hte territory would be much less for the fish to claim and I would have more problems. (this runs the risk of fish hanging out in the back of the tank and not coming to the front for me to see :(
 

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hmm. it might work that way. what fish are you thinking of getting?
also, i forgot to mention- you might want to raise your salinity to .025, which is the level in the ocean, at the reef.

as for the rock, place it so you have very little dead spots, or places where there is no current. you will find out fairly quickly where those dead spots are(stuff will accumilate there..algae, perhaps cyanobacteria....), if you miss any.

i wouldn't buy any living creatures with a noticable ammonia level. ammonia is the most toxic of the 3.
you will have algae blooms here and there, this is inevitable. don't freak out and think you are doing something wrong. be patient and the algae will leave as fast as it came.
you can try to remove the algae's food source if you want. are you putting anything in the tank besides saltwater? coral food or vitamins perhaps? if so, stop dosing immediately. it's completely unnecessary right now, and might only be helping the algae.
 
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mr_X":t7ztqhwe said:
some marine life isn't meant to touch air. when you pull rocks out of a tank, and wrap them in wet newspaper, and transport them to your house, i would think that particular rock would need to be re-cured.

with or without waterchanges, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate will zero out eventually, but you have a living creature(s) in your tank. i would be doing waterchanges simply to dilute any toxic levels , so not to kill my corals/fish/inverts.

Quoted for truth.

Anyone here ever use Bio-Spira?
 

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