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funkmaster

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im getting algae on my live rock i think it might of been from having old bulbs ...i just got new bulbs today does any one know what algae can acure from old bulbs and will it go away with new ones...i also just changed my uv what can happen if thats a old bulb as well
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jackson6745

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I personally have never experienced algae from old bulbs. Everyone always says this is so but I believe it to be a myth. I just don't see how a change of spectrum and a bulb that is weakening in intensity could cause algae growth. Since all of the current conventional phosphate testkits are useless at lower levels (.1 or less) I believe an old bulb is the scapegoat for phosphates :D
 
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basiab

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I used cheaper PC bulbs in the past and I could tell when they were going bad because my coraline on the glass would start to bleach. The reason pest algae grows from warn out bulbs as I understand it is that they prefer the spectrum available from warn out bulbs where the corals need the full spectrum available from a fresh bulb. If there was no difference then there should be no reason to change bulbs until they burn out.
 

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It largely depends on what lamp (or tube for that matter) you start out with.

Most lamps start to fall off in intensity after about 12-14 months, with tubes falling off after about 7-10 months ime.

the fall in intensity has no effect on 'inducing' algae becouse you are lowering the amount of light available. but the lamps and Tubes also shift in spectrum as well.

Sanjay is a far better person to contribute than I, but i'd say that 'generally' what happens from my understanding, is that the phosphors or halides used to generate the blue end of the spectrum deplete or ware out faster than those used to generate light at the red end, so you get a gradual shift over time where the blue falls away, shifting the output of the lamp more towards the warm red end. The red wont 'increase' in output becouse thats falling off over time as well from where it started, but it will fall at a lower rate, hence the visible decrease in intensity and visually shifting warmer output over time.

Does this 'cause' algae....personnaly Id say no. becouse as well as light, algae also need a nutrient source. If you have no nutrient then it doesnt realy make a jot of difference what light you have or what part of the spectrum its kicking out. But it may be the case that certain species of algae are better at using light from certain parts of the spectrum than others, so over time (with a small nutrient pool) you may see an increase in certain species over others as the light field shifts slightly, be that shallow water turfs or filamentous species to name but a few.

All in all though I'd say no...Old lamps wont 'cause' an algae outbreak if you have nutrient loads in check to start with.

What i'd be more concerned about, is how drastically the spectrum bounces back again when you replace the lamps etc, and the effects this may have on corals that have dropped or shifted pigmentation over time adapting with your old lights as they fell off in intensity and out of spectrum from where they origionally started.


regards.
 
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Master Shake

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when bulbs get older they may not burn out but the charge of the gasses in the bulb weakens and looses its effect. Weakened bulbs = less light for corals, slightly different spectrum given off by bulb, and i have noticed that with the light shift between new and old different algae's grow at different light strengths and spectrums. An old uv bulb can defeat the purpose for the same reason, it gets weaker and is basically like shining a flashlight as water passes by to kill parasites, disease and bacteria.
 

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