@ohanna888 easy for you to say. You wasn?t the one lied to for hours. Drive 3.5 hours in traffic cause of the marathon for this guy to lie in your face and say those are hammers not torches when you know damn well those are torches. Made sure he took the money to hold first. Then when I get there after paying gas, tolls and time in traffic to lie. And in case your thinking it your right it was my choice to drive down there but under the premises I was buying everything we talked about for hours and paid for beforehand. My honest mistake. I should of waited to pay first. I?m not sweating no $30-$40 torches. Anyone who knows me and seen my tank knows I have all the high end torches. Holy grails. Aussie gold. New York knicks. Dragon soul. Pink. Blue and orange Aussie. Pompoms. Etc. 18 different torches. Anyway I know better. Figures dealing with manhattan reefs. Don?t have these issues on other forums.