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I don't really think we need to talk it out. I've said what I needed to say. I don't bear you any animosity over it. I understand that there are situations where things need to be made public and I'm fine with it if you decide to do something like that. I've done it myself. I just didn't like...

Hey Suzy, I don't know how anyone else here feels about it, but here's how I feel: If you have things you need to say, say them. If you aren't going to say them, then don't. Making public insinuations and threats about possibly exposing something unless something else happens is dirty politics...

Sanity. I was being sarcastic.

Actually, the one thing that I could still do was request to be part of the translator committee. Hopefully that'll go well. Fingers crossed. I'm not holding my breath though.

I'm wrong. I can log in now. I can't do anything once logged, but I can log in.

I don't know what you mean. I can't log in. What difference does it make which forum?

I did link to this thread. This thread started right after Matt got voted out and its been going ever since. Given that MOFIB could hardly be trusted to be the place where discussions about MOFIB could happen, this thread became the place to record the events for posterity. If you want a history...

Hmm, so Luis owns it in full, and there are no members, but there are still members, and still parts of the website that are members-only, but there are no members, and Luis owns it in full despite the fact that the domains aren't in his name. Yeah, sounds about right. Suzy, if you like the...

That really is the freeing part for me. I spent so many years and so much effort trying to figure out a way to get back what we had there. Now I _really_ don't have to worry about it any more. I knew it intellectually years ago, of course. Now it's right there emotionally, too. And that's...

Thanks. 'Tis still a work in progress. Organizing the photos is lots of work. I fixed the gaffe. Thanks.

It's funny. I still get the emails telling me I have PMs. I can't even log in to check to see if I can see them any more. Bummer, eh? Yeah, not really. I feel ... free.

I think MOFIB has booted me. I can't tell for sure because I can't, of course, read the private message that presumably tells me that they've booted me since I have no access to private messages. Thank goodness Luis removed all the politics from the site. Well, he must have. He said so, right?

I doubt anyone can see what you are talking about. If you'd like us to see it then you'll have to cut and paste.

Well, by "members" I do mean the term loosely. By "voted" I also mean the term loosely.

I still don't understand how it's "politics" to point out to the members how the organization is breaking the law. Like when Steve Kennedy was trying to take the org's domain names and sent the email to me instead of Andy Rhyne. Will said some incredibly ugly things to me when I tried to tell...

Pretty impressive. It went away awfully quickly.

I have to admit that he said what I wanted to say, though in a much nicer and more concise manner. I thank you, too, Mr. Bookfish. I think I'd have more sympathy for your martyr role, Suzy, if you didn't actively insult many of the people in the past that you've now come running to, now that...

But, again, that's a tactic that John and co. have used over and over and over. If they didn't like what was happening, they would refuse to do anything. It was there in all the past threads. Suzy _bragged_ at one point about not reading any of it, saying she didn't want to get involved with the...

Again, Suzy, you were the director. It was your job to get up to speed on the history of the organization when you took the chair. The history was all there to read in the directors' forums. You didn't read it and then you backed the wrong ponies. It's really not a huge shock that they turned on...

Private forums. The culture of secrecy among what was supposed to be a member-owned organization was the root of the problem. It made it impossible for the members to see what was being done in their name. I mean, I'm fine with people having small, private, informal discussions to bat ideas...