Can someone ID these?
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FragMaster
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1st pic: bristle worm and a closed protopalythoa or zoanthid polyp.
2nd pic: Glass anemones. THey are pretty much the same a aptasia pest anemones. I would rid my tank of them asap if I were you.
2nd pic: Glass anemones. THey are pretty much the same a aptasia pest anemones. I would rid my tank of them asap if I were you.
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#1 - Fireworm. A beneficial detrivore that occationally has venomous bristles (don't touch it).
#2 - Hydroids. Typically, this type will disappear once their food is removed (excell food in the water column).
#2 - Hydroids. Typically, this type will disappear once their food is removed (excell food in the water column).
FragMaster
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True fire worms a next to impossible to find in the home aquaria now days so I doubt it is a true fire worm.
Not to mention they are bright red.
Not to mention they are bright red.
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delete this too please! Lagg foobarred me!!!
FragMaster
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double post sorry please delete.
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FragMaster":y8cbu2ec said:True fire worms a next to impossible to find in the home aquaria now days so I doubt it is a true fire worm.
Not to mention they are bright red.
One of the most common bristleworms found in aquariums are commonly called Fireworms, what do you mean they are rare? It's rare to have a reef without them. They come in all sorts of colors, not just red.
FragMaster
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A true fire worm will actualy INJECT you with POISON. Unlike a run of the mill bristle worm like shown. Bristle worms comonly found in the home aquaria ARE NOT VENEMOUS. Although nothing short of a nusance they ARE NOT VENEMOUS. Thier bristles break of in your skin like a cactus.
Thats it. No venom. the side effect of it is infection if you do not remove them.
And no they dont come in all colors (at least not that I am aware of?). They are almost always a rainbow peach color, somtime verying towards orangeish red.
Fire worms are BRIGHT red with BRIGHT WHITE bristles.
Thats it. No venom. the side effect of it is infection if you do not remove them.
And no they dont come in all colors (at least not that I am aware of?). They are almost always a rainbow peach color, somtime verying towards orangeish red.
Fire worms are BRIGHT red with BRIGHT WHITE bristles.
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All of those pictures are pics of fireworms. Perhaps you're a little confused.
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FragMaster":3d7gqaoa said:Fire worms are BRIGHT red with BRIGHT WHITE bristles.
Bristle worms of the Family: Amphinomidae are called Fire Worms, their colors can range from greenish to yellowish to orange to red. :wink:
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David Mohr
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Ricordia":1zgvfby5 said:
That's a problem with common names. They can be interpreted. For me, Bristleworm = Polychaete (means "many Bristles"). This includes Feather Dusters, Christmas Tree Worms, Fireworms, Spirobidae Worms, Spaghetti Worms, Hair Worms, etc.
FragMaster
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ONE inparticular is actualy named "fire worm".
They are all called fire worms ( miss labeled) but they are not all fire worms.
Either way he's still right dont touch it! LOL!
I posted a photo of a "fire worm" and bristle worms. THey are in the same family obviously but one produces an actual venom that causes severe burning ( Fire worm). Thats the difference.
They are all called fire worms ( miss labeled) but they are not all fire worms.
Either way he's still right dont touch it! LOL!
I posted a photo of a "fire worm" and bristle worms. THey are in the same family obviously but one produces an actual venom that causes severe burning ( Fire worm). Thats the difference.
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FragMaster":201fbypn said:ONE inparticular is actualy named "fire worm".
They are all called fire worms ( miss labeled) but they are not all fire worms.
Either way he's still right dont touch it! LOL!
I posted a photo of a "fire worm" and bristle worms. THey are in the same family obviously but one produces an actual venom that causes severe burning ( Fire worm). Thats the difference.
As David mentioned "Fire Worm" is a general term, not a specific Species. Hermodice carunculata (the "Bearded Fire Worm" in your first picture) is a Fire Worm but not all Fire Worms are Hermodice carunculata.
FragMaster
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Thats my point. LOL!
But as for the one in the pic.....( the original id pic) they do not very in coloration much at all. they may be a tad darker or lighter but they are basicly all the same coloration in that sub species, which what ever it is, is with out a doubt the most comonly found bristle worm in the home aquaria.
Now as for the 1st pic I posted. It is a venemous species with hollow bristles that inject poisons into whatever grabs it. Where as the traditional "fire worm" aka bristle worm does NOT.
http://marinebio.org/species.asp?id=292
Read the description.
I may have been hasty on the coloration of it but they are comonly found in reds and DARK colorations. unlike the later ( which would be the on the thread starter wants and ID on) which is always found in peach,/tan withanoily rainbow sheen, which dose not produce venom.
There are three seperate photos on this web page.
http://www.maltavista.net/en/list/photo/1708.html
And all photos show darker colors than the comom bristle worm which dose not produce venom.
http://coralsphere.com/usfireworm.html
But as for the one in the pic.....( the original id pic) they do not very in coloration much at all. they may be a tad darker or lighter but they are basicly all the same coloration in that sub species, which what ever it is, is with out a doubt the most comonly found bristle worm in the home aquaria.
Now as for the 1st pic I posted. It is a venemous species with hollow bristles that inject poisons into whatever grabs it. Where as the traditional "fire worm" aka bristle worm does NOT.
http://marinebio.org/species.asp?id=292
Read the description.
I may have been hasty on the coloration of it but they are comonly found in reds and DARK colorations. unlike the later ( which would be the on the thread starter wants and ID on) which is always found in peach,/tan withanoily rainbow sheen, which dose not produce venom.
There are three seperate photos on this web page.
http://www.maltavista.net/en/list/photo/1708.html
And all photos show darker colors than the comom bristle worm which dose not produce venom.
http://coralsphere.com/usfireworm.html
FragMaster
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" The bristleworms are not called fireworms just because of their
bright orange and red colors. The fine, needle-like bristles are
hollow and contain a potent venom. The sting caused by these worms
feel like fire and last a long time. Don't handle them with bare
hands. The common Caribbean species is the fireworm, Hermodice
carunculata, in the family Amphinomidae. Several other species of
fireworms in this family may occasionally show up in marine tanks,
and all are dangerous. The orange bristle worm, Eurythoe
complanata, is common in rocks around coral reefs. It is a long,
segmented orange worm with a line of short white bristles on each
side. This species can easily reproduce in marine aquariums, and
rocks and filter beds may develope large populations of this
polychaete bristleworm. (Moe, p.450)
"
Found here:
http://www.thekrib.com/Marine/bristle.html
One last link that vividly describes the diferences as well as the comon missconception caused by the loose term "fire worm".
http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/msubpe ... 102198.htm
Man..... I am through looking up stuff on worms!!! LOL!!!
Just dont touch it!! LOL!!
bright orange and red colors. The fine, needle-like bristles are
hollow and contain a potent venom. The sting caused by these worms
feel like fire and last a long time. Don't handle them with bare
hands. The common Caribbean species is the fireworm, Hermodice
carunculata, in the family Amphinomidae. Several other species of
fireworms in this family may occasionally show up in marine tanks,
and all are dangerous. The orange bristle worm, Eurythoe
complanata, is common in rocks around coral reefs. It is a long,
segmented orange worm with a line of short white bristles on each
side. This species can easily reproduce in marine aquariums, and
rocks and filter beds may develope large populations of this
polychaete bristleworm. (Moe, p.450)
"
Found here:
http://www.thekrib.com/Marine/bristle.html
One last link that vividly describes the diferences as well as the comon missconception caused by the loose term "fire worm".
http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/msubpe ... 102198.htm
Man..... I am through looking up stuff on worms!!! LOL!!!
Just dont touch it!! LOL!!
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I have been lit up by a "fireworm" once while I was spearfishing in the Gulf of Mexico under an oil rig. That s.o.b was the diameter of a thumb and every bit of a foot long. Bright red with white bristles.
Trust me you do not want to touch one of these guys!!!!!!!!!!!!
felt like about a dozen red hornets stung me all at once. I could not sit down comfortably for a few days.........yes I sat on it!!
I had just shot a decent size amberjack and sat on a crosstie to haul him in.
Needless to say it felt like I had fire under my butt....hence the name fireworm! I was wearing bluejeans and it still got me in the end.
Long story short I nuke any worm I see in my tank. good, bad I don't care!
Trust me you do not want to touch one of these guys!!!!!!!!!!!!
felt like about a dozen red hornets stung me all at once. I could not sit down comfortably for a few days.........yes I sat on it!!
I had just shot a decent size amberjack and sat on a crosstie to haul him in.
Needless to say it felt like I had fire under my butt....hence the name fireworm! I was wearing bluejeans and it still got me in the end.
Long story short I nuke any worm I see in my tank. good, bad I don't care!
FragMaster
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Now thats funny!!!!! LOL!!!! :lol:
Shipbuilder
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Fragmaster,
Do you have any idea what is like to scream and curse underwater while holding your bum with one hand and having a very p.o'd fish trying to pull you to the bottom on the other?!
My father was about 20' above me saw the whole thing play out below him...knew what happened and 'bout drowned himself laffin before going down to take the amberjack from me so could chop that farkin worm up with my knife.
I can hear all yall laffin by the way! :roll:
Do you have any idea what is like to scream and curse underwater while holding your bum with one hand and having a very p.o'd fish trying to pull you to the bottom on the other?!
My father was about 20' above me saw the whole thing play out below him...knew what happened and 'bout drowned himself laffin before going down to take the amberjack from me so could chop that farkin worm up with my knife.
I can hear all yall laffin by the way! :roll:
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