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ShaunW

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Hey solbby! Got those instructions for me yet? When do you want me to send out the samples?
Ok Pierce here is the instructions. This procedure should be followed by all participates in the study.

Instructions:

Fill the 15mL sterile tubes with tank water taken from the water column. It doesn't matter where it is taken from (not the sump please), but for consistency sake immerse the tube into the top of the tank and remove it full. Seal it immediately and place it in a refrigerator for storage until all water samples are collected. When they are all collected let me know and I can work out a pickup or have them sent by mail to me.

As for the times and days of sample collection, I would like a lights on and lights off sample for one day of sampling. Take the sample towards the end of the photoperiod/dark period if possible. Then do this twice a week (four samples per week) for two weeks. Total eight samples.

As an example:
Week 1
Tuesday: 2 samples, one lights on and one lights off.
Thursday: 2 samples, one lights on and one lights off.

Week 2
Tuesday: 2 samples, one lights on and one lights off.
Thursday: 2 samples, one lights on and one lights off.

Choosing what day of the week I will leave up to the individual reefers, however, chose a period to start the study during which your tank is stable, i.e. no water changes during the testing period, no changes to equipment, lights, light cycles, feeding regiment, and temperature. Once you decide to start the water collection, please finish it within two weeks, don't extend the sample collection over many weeks.

THANKS TO ALL for your participation. :D I am really excited to see the differences and/or similarities between all our tanks, and will be sure to let everybody know the results as they happen.
Shaun.
 
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ShaunW

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lemme ask you something shaun, i was reading a article on serratia marcescen how it has formed a pigment allowing it to stay in water better. When bubbles pop and surface agitation the pigment has something to do with keeping it in the water without throwing the bacteria into the air? I mean bacteria are very light if a skimmer wants to push them out of the water it's possible right?
Yes Dave it is completely possible that bacteria will be pushed out by a skimmer, however, how much is pushed out and the frequency I can only speculate on.
 

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Yes Dave it is completely possible that bacteria will be pushed out by a skimmer, however, how much is pushed out and the frequency I can only speculate on.
im thinking about the bacterial attaching to nutrients or the ditrus becomes airborn after being in the skimmer for a while. Yo shaun i didnt know there was serratia marcesen that attack acros lol.
 

ShaunW

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im thinking about the bacterial attaching to nutrients or the ditrus becomes airborn after being in the skimmer for a while.
Dave this would be minimal to not at all. Unless the skimmer is completely dry and particulate matter is there, i.e. dust, then the bacteria would be stuck in the collection cup.
 
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To the best of my recollection, all the tanks showed very low water borne bacterial numbers compared to those found in the wild, and there was little difference between systems regardless if they were heavily skimmed, lightly skimmed or unskimmed. Based on these results, skimmers seem to not be doing much in regards to bacterial removal.

Perhaps Shaun can elaborate more, but he hasn't been around much lately.
 

morphiii

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I just don't think much of the bacteria is in the water column. You would get more bacteria in one grain of sand than the entire water column.

I think the study is flawed.

But just realized this was from 2006. Why is Wingo responding in this thread? :)

Never mind.
 
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But just realized this was from 2006. Why is Wingo responding in this thread? :)


Because I, and many readers, really want to know what his finally conclusion or partial findings was. He was unable to finish the presentation in the swap due to time constraint.

He is still with the forum but just not as much. Hoep he can see this repost the findings.
 

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