Tang as a "50g cleaner package" check it out

[Frank Mularo]

Rover have you read the ad?
These birdbrains are recommending tangs as cleaners. For example they recommend a sailfin and a yellow tang for a 50 in one package and a naso and a yellow tang in another.
I am reacting to your comment that they probably won't outgrow a 50galllon. Do you still stand by that comment?

Jeremy spraypainting fur coats almost destroyed the fur industry in Canda. It took 15 years for them to start recovering.
What do you suggest we do.

naesco,
While you're up there on your soapbox all "outraged" ( :roll: )over this horrible injustice to tangs everywhere, why don't you take it a step further and declare that we all should be buying only captively bred and raised fish and inverts? In reality, you and all of us are guilty as well. If you have any fish or invert captured from the wild, you too are contributing to the destruction of the reef ecosystem. Everything that you keep in your tanks would survive better in the wild, given the opportunity. So unless you are ready to make the commitment to no wild organismsof any kind in your tank, spare us the histrionics. It smacks of hypocrisy.

And for the record, I don't recommend keeping tangs at all. That comes from my own experience with them, experience that showed me they aren't as well suited to captivity as other species. And I kept them in large, lightly stocked tanks and still had difficulty with them.

 

[naesco]

AA Greg
Great summary of your posts

Frank
Glad you would not support this either.
You keep them in the ocean comment is well worn on these boards though.
IMO our role is to provide nothing but optimum conditions for the critters we keep in our care. I strive to pass that message on to as many reefers as I can.
Unfortuneately, some industry types like anchofish dont give a damn.
Thankfully, the reefers who took the time to vote, have come to the conclusion that most of us who have posted have and that is that anchofish is being irresponsible.

 

[Mouse]

Heres the reply to the letter i sent, i guess they just dont care.

Thank you for your comment.

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Morss" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:35 AM
Subject: 30G Cleaner package suggestion


> Dear Anchofish guys & galls,
>
> please take the time to review our discussion regarding ethical practices
> in the long term maintenance of Tangs in captive reef systems. I think you
> will see from the posts herein that the overwhelming majority of our
> responsible reefkeepers disagree with your stocking suggestions regarding
> the cleaner packages reccomended by your site. It is my recomendation that
> all tangs be removed from your cleaner package for aquariua less than
100G,
> and that Nasu Tangs be removed from lists pertaining to anything less than
> 200G. We beleave our suggestions to be in the best intrests of the tangs,
> and of the hobby, and also ultimately yourslefs as a responsible marine
> vendor.
>
> the following URL should contain a link to the forementioned thread.
>
>
http://reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t ... =asc&start
=0
>
> this is a topic that has been discussed many times, over and over, ad
> nausiem. And we truly beleave that this is a true and honest reflection of
> the ethics and morality held by those who would strive to be considered
> concientious reef keepers. It would be wonderfull if you could join us to
> promote this ethical practice.
>
> many thanks,
>
> mouse