MattM...
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A simple analysis will tell us the elemental composition, but not the compounds that were present.
We have talked to Joe Gatto, the owner, and expressed some concern that he does not list ingredients of the product. He contends that the ingredients are secret in order to preserve his market position. We asked about the "patent applied for" label on the box and we pointed out that any patent would have to disclose the ingredients (patents and trade secrets are opposites - you can't have both).
He contends that a patent has been applied for, but we have been unable to find any record of it in the US Patent and Trademark database. He later told us that he could not give us the patent application number on the advice of his attorney and became very paranoid that we were trying to steal his product. This is a strange claim, since patent applications and numbers are public knowledge - you can read them at http://www.uspto.gov
We attempted to assure him that we had no intention of reproducing the product, but that we could not sell it without knowing what was in it. He didn't want to talk to us anymore after that.
There has been some anecdotal evidence that Joe's Juice may be harmful to shrimp, but we don't have enough info to look into it any further.
If he does get a patent, we will all be able to read it on the web, but we are a bit suspicious since we can find no record of the application.
We have talked to Joe Gatto, the owner, and expressed some concern that he does not list ingredients of the product. He contends that the ingredients are secret in order to preserve his market position. We asked about the "patent applied for" label on the box and we pointed out that any patent would have to disclose the ingredients (patents and trade secrets are opposites - you can't have both).
He contends that a patent has been applied for, but we have been unable to find any record of it in the US Patent and Trademark database. He later told us that he could not give us the patent application number on the advice of his attorney and became very paranoid that we were trying to steal his product. This is a strange claim, since patent applications and numbers are public knowledge - you can read them at http://www.uspto.gov
We attempted to assure him that we had no intention of reproducing the product, but that we could not sell it without knowing what was in it. He didn't want to talk to us anymore after that.
There has been some anecdotal evidence that Joe's Juice may be harmful to shrimp, but we don't have enough info to look into it any further.
If he does get a patent, we will all be able to read it on the web, but we are a bit suspicious since we can find no record of the application.
.You'll never know what is in it without extremely expensive analysis. Its not a simple test. If there is anything organic in there, its out the window. Very time consuming and costly. If its just Ca or just K, then possibly. Its not worth it for anyone though. Just trial and error at home is mainly what I was referring to.
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