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Farquhar55

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Can an RO/DI system that needs the filters changed leak contaminates into the water at a concentration? The manufacturer of the system I have recommends changing the filters every 6 to 12 months. If I’m making large quantities of water at a time this recommendation is inapplicable. How many gallons can an RO system produce before the filters need to be replaced?
 

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I think it depends on the quality of your mains water supply.

The turbidity of the water where i am is terrible and i have to change my filters at half the manufacturers recommended time, just one of those things.

Hopefully i'll get more life out of them when i get round to putting the whole house water supply through a filter

Get a TDS meter and check the output of your RO and see, i was following the manufacturers recommendations until i started getting algal blooms, got a tds and found my RO/DI filters were in need of urgent replacement.

Least thats what it was for me

HTH

Anton :)
 
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>...Get a TDS meter and check the output of your RO and see...

Ditto. For cheap filters such as sediment and carbon, you change it regularly (I do mine once a year, YMMV), but for RO membrane I use a TDS meter to monitor it.
 
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Read the silicate series by Randy in AAOM, you may change your view about it.

Anyway, if your TDS goes up, it is always a indication that the membrane and/or prefilters need to be replaced. All types of ions will come thru with the silicates, so if you keep your eye on the rest of the gang, you should be fine.
 

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Reef Box Etc":2factkwi said:
Read the silicate series by Randy in AAOM, you may change your view about it.

Anyway, if your TDS goes up, it is always a indication that the membrane and/or prefilters need to be replaced. All types of ions will come thru with the silicates, so if you keep your eye on the rest of the gang, you should be fine.

i did read it.. i think he's on crack.
 
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He does have easy access to drugs, but I will never say what you said above publically.

I strongely suggest you edit your post since RDO does not encourage personal attack. I am pretty sure you have no information or knowledge to back up your opinion.
 
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Whatever you do, don't let your carbon filter run out. We did that once and the chlorine (or something else in the water) killed the RO part of the filter. The water it put out smelled like pool water. We had to replace an almost new RO filter because we forgot to change the much cheaper carbon filter.
 
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I don't know why it taste metallic to you, but usually there is some organics in it due to the manufacture process of the DI resin, so it should taste "plasticy."

DI resin used in the hobby are not NSF certified for drinking water due to the leaching issue above. You are just wasting your money if you drink DI water on a regular basis since the extra filtration step buys you nothing. RO is more than sufficient for clean, safe water.
 

Bucktronix

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i don't use it as drinking water, i replaced some carts yesterday and was checking my tds and had a sip of the water. it tasted metalic to me.
 
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Bucktronix":2q1ei6ck said:
Reef Box Etc":2q1ei6ck said:
Read the silicate series by Randy in AAOM, you may change your view about it.

Anyway, if your TDS goes up, it is always a indication that the membrane and/or prefilters need to be replaced. All types of ions will come thru with the silicates, so if you keep your eye on the rest of the gang, you should be fine.

i did read it.. i think he's on crack.

Dude, I have such respect for Randy Holmes-Farley. That guy really knows his field of chemistry, and never tires of explaining things in easy to understand language for reef keepers. I think he is a very valuable source of information to us.

Of course, you always have to use your own judgement when deciding who to believe, but for me, if RHF says something, I take it under serious consideration.
 

Bucktronix

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Laura D":2ysxozys said:
Bucktronix":2ysxozys said:
Reef Box Etc":2ysxozys said:
Read the silicate series by Randy in AAOM, you may change your view about it.

Anyway, if your TDS goes up, it is always a indication that the membrane and/or prefilters need to be replaced. All types of ions will come thru with the silicates, so if you keep your eye on the rest of the gang, you should be fine.

i did read it.. i think he's on crack.

Dude, I have such respect for Randy Holmes-Farley. That guy really knows his field of chemistry, and never tires of explaining things in easy to understand language for reef keepers. I think he is a very valuable source of information to us.

Of course, you always have to use your own judgement when deciding who to believe, but for me, if RHF says something, I take it under serious consideration.

so you are planning on dosing silicates into your reef then?
 
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Bucktronix":24xy1nuq said:
Laura D":24xy1nuq said:
Bucktronix":24xy1nuq said:
Reef Box Etc":24xy1nuq said:
Read the silicate series by Randy in AAOM, you may change your view about it.

Anyway, if your TDS goes up, it is always a indication that the membrane and/or prefilters need to be replaced. All types of ions will come thru with the silicates, so if you keep your eye on the rest of the gang, you should be fine.

i did read it.. i think he's on crack.

Dude, I have such respect for Randy Holmes-Farley. That guy really knows his field of chemistry, and never tires of explaining things in easy to understand language for reef keepers. I think he is a very valuable source of information to us.

Of course, you always have to use your own judgement when deciding who to believe, but for me, if RHF says something, I take it under serious consideration.

so you are planning on dosing silicates into your reef then?

Me dose silicates? No, I am not much for dosing anything.

I was just shocked to see such a disrespectful and mean comment ("I think he's on crack") about someone who I consider to be a very valuable source of information to the reefkeeping community, that's all.
 

Bucktronix

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im curious then who is going to start dosing silicates into their reef? im mean hell there is an entire industry devoted to removing them and he advocated adding them. sounds crazy to me.
 
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Bucktronix":1m8vcj93 said:
im curious then who is going to start dosing silicates into their reef? im mean hell there is an entire industry devoted to removing them and he advocated adding them. sounds crazy to me.

Same goes for Ca, Mg, Na, chlorine, etc.
 
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I would suggest getting a TDS meter. They are pretty cheap ($30 range). the higher your TDS is in your source water, the faster your RO membrane will burn out and the more often your filters will have to be changed.



Consider that most RO manufacturers base their filter change estimates on a consumption of about one gallon per day. An RO supplier gave me this rough figure to find out how often I should change mine. So lets say you have about 300 gallons per filter change. Now if you source water is dirty, then you have to change more often. If it is very clean, like mine, you have to change less often.

The final test is to taste the water. Taste it with fresh filters. Remember that taste. It's sort of sweet because of the lack of salts. When filters get dirty, there will be the taste of "old" water...like water that has sat in a bottle for too long. Hard to explain, but you get a feel for it.
 

Farquhar55

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manny":3nr5t7xc said:
the faster your RO membrane will burn out and the more often your filters will have to be changed.

Isn’t a membrane basically a bag with microscopic holes that allow water through and solids to be held and washed out in the disposed water? And if this is what a membrane is wouldn’t an old membrane only become clogged and less efficient in it’s usage of water?
 

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