5 Gallon Nano tank
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Average shipping cost for air frieght is $1.00-$1.80 per lb from most retailers online to the consumer. $60 and up per 100lbs from a wholesaler. It all depends on how much wieght your wholesaler overseas ships with the air frieght co. he/she uses as to what sort of discount they can pass on to you. Box charges ( usualy the same from retailers to customers as well) usualy average $6-$12 per box depending on size of the box, and heat/cold packs needed. ALSO it depends on if your order is COD or not becase that carries an extra charge with the airline as well depending on the total cost of shipping with them. They have a minimum wieght and minimum sales number that must be fufilled by the retailer as well in most all cases.
Man I have no idea where you get your numbers, your buying strategy, or your information as a whole about this business, but if it is from a consultant FIRE HIM, if its from a friend SMACK'EM.
"I dont have a shop I do this part time on the weekends"
Then why act like your a big player and have been in the business for years wholesaling?
Also post some pics of "your" 75g tank you said you have running on the same "system". Pics of equipment, and the live stock.
detailed shots please.
It's amazing how some things seem to come up again every so often. Against my better judgement I'm going to add to this thread.
Back in 1998 two things happened in quick succession. I had a run in with Snake at his booth at MACNA that year, and shortly afterwards Snake started posting to the [email protected] mailing list I ran along with Jimmy Chen.
The result of those postings was very similiar to what's gone on in this thread. With one exception. Snake offered to provide a sample of his product if someone would give it a try and report on the validity (or lack thereof) of his claims.
I volunteered. I ran a 6 gallon eclipse I had sitting around for a month I think it was using Snake's product. If memory serves I tested it with five green chromis.
Ammonia, nitrate and nitrite were not detectable throughout that time period, using Salifert kits (what I had at my disposal at the time, having a large number of them on hand from having done product testing on them shortly before for the now long-defunct Reef Reviews).
Can I tell you how the product works? Nope. Can I tell you if it's suitable for long term use? Nope. Do I think it has any legitimate use for a reef tank for any purpose other then possibly during the very first days of curing live rock? Nope. But does it do what it claims to? As far as I could tell... yeah.
FWIW.
Back in 1998 two things happened in quick succession. I had a run in with Snake at his booth at MACNA that year, and shortly afterwards Snake started posting to the [email protected] mailing list I ran along with Jimmy Chen.
The result of those postings was very similiar to what's gone on in this thread. With one exception. Snake offered to provide a sample of his product if someone would give it a try and report on the validity (or lack thereof) of his claims.
I volunteered. I ran a 6 gallon eclipse I had sitting around for a month I think it was using Snake's product. If memory serves I tested it with five green chromis.
Ammonia, nitrate and nitrite were not detectable throughout that time period, using Salifert kits (what I had at my disposal at the time, having a large number of them on hand from having done product testing on them shortly before for the now long-defunct Reef Reviews).
Can I tell you how the product works? Nope. Can I tell you if it's suitable for long term use? Nope. Do I think it has any legitimate use for a reef tank for any purpose other then possibly during the very first days of curing live rock? Nope. But does it do what it claims to? As far as I could tell... yeah.
FWIW.
Do bear in mind this was the better part of 10 years ago and I have a hard enough time remembering last week 8)
Tank was set up specifically to try out the stuff. No water changes were performed (and I don't believe it was even topped off, very little evaporation on those eclipse 6 units). Water was NSW (Catalina brand, readily available in socal). There was no mechanical filtration, skimming, live rock, live sand or anything else. An empty 6 gallon tank, a small canister filter running the media (I seem to recall the instructions at the time saying something about it being neccessary to run the media under pressure, hence the canister), NSW, a heater and a handful of green chromis. It really was that basic.
If someone knows where the [email protected] archive is these days, it may be possible to find the relevent posts from that period.
From memory, ammonia, nitrate and nitrite were all reading as undetectable. I remember checking a few other things for the hell of it, but nothing that stands out in my mind as out of the ordinary, results wise.
What would have been the point? I had a well established tank with zero ammonia and nitrites, and very very low nitrates anyway, in a system that I -knew- how it worked (live rock, skimmer, DSB).
Besides, it should be obvious that if you short circuit the ammonia->nitrite-nitrate cycle, then the bacteria in any life rock/sand in the tank would by neccessity scale back due to having their source of inputs limited. I'd be concerned about that for two reasons. First, it would dramatically lessen the carrying capacity of the rock in the event of a short-term crisis. Second, god knows what effect that might have had on other life in the tank - I didn't, and why find out the hard way?
Nah. Form fitting, full enclosing hood. Doubt the tank lost even 1/4 cup of water to evaporation over the whole month.
But yet no reports of alkalinity drops, no calcium precipitation, and no
Ph problems.
An aboslute miracle of "new science".
His posting on "the other board" are just insanity.
Give him more rope. This should turn out to be the most attended public hanging in history.
Ph problems.
An aboslute miracle of "new science".
His posting on "the other board" are just insanity.
Give him more rope. This should turn out to be the most attended public hanging in history.
FragMaster":uz8dhf05 said:But yet no reports of alkalinity drops, no calcium precipitation, and no
Ph problems.
An aboslute miracle of "new science".
I think I just wasted a lot of time on someone misrepresenting themselves. Dang, I hate it when that happens.
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