disgusting,horrible and a disgrace to this hobby

[duke62]

i just came back from btj jungle in long island and id have to say i am horrified but what i saw.i wrote a thread about this about a year ago and i think its even gotten worse now.they have tiny little tanks housing puffers triggers i would say around 3 gal of water.there seahorses are in with anemones and bubble coral and sucking on what looks to be sea grass.there tanks are brown in coloration.their clowns looked like they have been chewed on and all coral are bleached or losing color.how do they keep their license to sell animals.oh and there dogs are housed looked to me 7 chuwawas(dont even think to ask me how to spell that).are housed in a tiny pen.man i wish i could do something to help those animals.

 

[SaltyFlip]

I guess they weren't kidding about the jungle part. BUT in all seriousness that is definitely a disgrace not just to this hobby but caring for animals in general. I think they should have their license revoked seems from what I read that they don't or do not know how to take care of their animals.

 

[D1J8Z]

never even heard of this place where is it?

Cant u report them or something?

 

[duke62]

its on the sunrise hwy i think its west babylon

 

[DrCooper]

Hey everyone,
So I know how you can do something. I will find out the correct numbers and stuff but you simply need to make a report. I know someone who goes to pet shops to check on them and make sure following laws and I know this store isnt as I agree when I went it was horrible.
Place should be shut down.
I find out the info and repost it or you can PM me

It is sad what some pet stores do
All for money and the expensive of innocent animals

 

[CHEMCHEF]

Its amazing ot me what happens when people stop caring. BTJ's Used to have 2 locations, Sunrise highway (across the street from where they are now, it burned down) and Westbury, 2 miles from my house. Well the one in westury was the place to go 6 years ago. They had everything, great showroom, sick (in a good way) livestock, really knowledgable staff. But i went to the one in suffolk about 4 mos. ago when i first got into reefing because the Westbury location has been closed for about 6 years, figuring it was the untapped resorce nobody knew about.
The place was a F***ing disgrace. I was with my 10 year old son and even he said "dad lets get out of here, but before we do lets smash the tanks so the fish can die without suffering".
This place should at the very least be cited by the board of health. I mean they break my balls for having a just delivered crate of milk on the walk in refrigerator floor in a spotless kitchen. I would think they would have enough red violations in this place to shut it down!!!! OUR TAXES HARD AT WORK AGAIN!!!! I will stop my RANT now sorry.

IF YOU SHOP AT THIS PLACE YOU ARE SUPPORTING ANIMAL ABUSE

 

[CHEMCHEF]

Just call suffolk county board of heath and report them. The problem with this is they have to do things in order of importance. and im sure peoples health comes first. (hospitals, Resturaunts, ETC. I think it would be more effective to embarres them in some way, maybe keep on posting so when people search B.T.J.'s Jungle These posts are right at the top of the page!!! I dont really know how this internet stuff works though.

Hey everyone,
So I know how you can do something. I will find out the correct numbers and stuff but you simply need to make a report. I know someone who goes to pet shops to check on them and make sure following laws and I know this store isnt as I agree when I went it was horrible.
Place should be shut down.
I find out the info and repost it or you can PM me

It is sad what some pet stores do
All for money and the expensive of innocent animals

 

[DrCooper]

Anyone willing to file the report? I called my friend and left her a message so the ball has already started rolling. Hopefully we can get something done about this place

Matt

 

[big-nemo3]

i had to buy a fish one day i was feeling so bad for it ..i still have him by the way

 

[jck16]

I know it's really frustrating to see these sorts of practices at pet stores. I had my own infuriating experience when I went into a Petland Discounts that was selling marine fish in rather dismal conditions (though nowhere near as bad as this store apparently). I thought I could help them out, since it was clear that no one there was too knowledgeable about marine fish, by taking up a temporary summer job there. In the one month I was there, what I saw initially was only the tip of the iceberg. Crocea clams under a single 40w growlux fluorescent bulb, heavily oxidized coins and other metal objects in the main saltwater filter sump, porcupine fish housed with reef lobsters, shark eggs, cyanobacteria covered "live rock" being sold for $7.99/ lb, and seahorses and mandarins that obviously were not eating or living off of only brine shrimp. Just to name a few of the things. The problem is that if you have a hardheaded manager who won't listen to others' input, there's not much even an employee can do to change things. I had an incident, which eventually led to my gettingn fired, where I got really fed up and tried to drip-acclimate some long-nosed butterflyfish instead of letting the manager just float the bags as he usually does. I can tell you myself that it's all very frustrating, and when I left, I wrote a letter to the vice-president of the company about these things, which wasn't answered.

Rant aside, I've been racking my brain to figure out how these sorts of practices can be stopped. As individuals, probably the most we can do is personally boycott those businesses and spread the word. But, I would hope that that's enough to at least make others here reconsider buying from those places, even in the name of convenience and saving a few bucks, to support more ethical places. I think that we can spot these problematic places, but it's sad that they'll still make a profit selling marine livestock by suckering in other people who are complete novices and spreading misinformation in the name of making a sale.

 

[duke62]

no the prices are through the roof there.its not like oooh ill get that clown its only 10 and ill try to nurse it back to health.for some unknown reason that store has a great rep maybe because of the old store i dont know.all i know is i wanted to scream when i saw there livestock.its not like they just opened and arent knowledgable yet on there livestock.they have been around for decades.all i know is that i hope manhattan reefers donot support this store and hopefully the town of babylon can do something about it.ill give them a call mon

 

[georgelc86]

ASPCA? Think they would care. We can also report them to the Better Business Bureau but I dont know how far that goes.

 

[georgelc86]

We should probably get the long island reefers club to see if they can help report this place as well.

 

[xavier]

what is sure is that we must do something. First for the animals and second for the hobby. As someone said, in Petco (Union Square, NYC) we have the same drama.

 

[Lenny718]

I'm not one to bash a fellow LFS but if it's as bad as you say it is than something must be done!:irked:

 

[georgelc86]

You vendors know what it takes to setup up a joint, dont you guys have to go through some red tape or is it just setup and run. If there is red tape then there are regulations and with regulations we could use those avenues to report such a sh1tty store.

 

[DrCooper]

Once my friend calls me back I will have some good info for you guys but a great start is to call the town and also the board of health regardless.
I will call the ASPCA tommorow since I know a few people over there and see what they can do. I know they wont be happy about the puppy situation, however I need to dig a bit and see the policy on fish and other exotics.
This is great to see everyone care and want to help those animals and the hobby.

Matt

 

[georgelc86]

** High fiving Coop right now **

 

[duke62]

if we can do something,anything that would be great.

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

If there are reptiles that need to be relocated let me know I will post on the gecko board see if peeps there can hold them.