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[clarionreef]

CF WRITES;
"What would you suggest be the first step in a plan of action, for the conservation education that the collectors teachin the mac guys how to collect, need ? "

CF,
It was insightful that you knew that it was in fact the collectors that have been teachin MAC all along and what works in "teaching" them!
Or was it an error in grammer?
Steve

 

[coralfarmin]

cortez.....I think that You *might* be a little suprised about what I really Know, about what goes on, around *our worlds* reefs.but far as that gos...I have confidence in marks diehard attitude...and feel he is probably a great collector...I comprehended that from the context I've read here...I dont really know

Though at this point, alot of others are all my idols still, with , Mike & You, in first and second place, you would be first, but all you like to talk about is collectin fish :lol:

I like to talk about coralfarmin, also :wink:

I actualy, have been outlining a grant proposal, for *more knowledge* for the world, thru a online *Reef Conservation Awareness Program*(Re-Cap)

The subject matter does not consist of any * field mud * slingin though, :wink:
Just about *reef protectin* thru a reef conservation awarness training program. This could also, potentaly include a certification certificate, with differant levels of trainin, for commercial or hobby level, *players* :wink:

Since I can only draft my *new world*,conservation awareness concept, and help thru free time and my current knowledge, I really have nothin much to offer though, I need *ALL* the key *PLAYERS* help, even others that I do not know yet :wink:

I would like to sacrafice, the *new world* reef conservation awarness concept, and any potential proceeds generated, thru a *potential*paypal donation button, to mine & my idols, passions , as a symbol of my faith in their *reef conservation concepts*, but can only make that submission, upon their approval first, of the *new world* concept.

Eddie Robbins

 

[Joew]

Christ...We have another NAESCO on the way...Coral, leave the conservation to the pros.
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[coralfarmin]

:roll: :roll: thanks for all your help

protectin reefs :wink:

btw, sometimes the pros (like you seem to think you are) seem to get monotonous,imo, saying the same old *type* things, over and over and over *this causes counter production imo*, I have been listening and trying to learn, and caught on to most stuff you've said, though I'm not receptive to your motive & angles yet, I comprehended them the first time :wink:

I need *more* new fresh info,.....I know you got it, stop holdin out :wink:

Don't hide it, divide it :wink: please help the world throw the world a lifesaver

 

[Anonymous]

you could first research everything here-there's tons of info in the ind forum going back well over two years


just how easy do you think it is to get funding, set up organizations, etc., anyway ? :wink:

 

[coralfarmin]

thanxs, vitz

I have been doing that, over 2 years

I also, would like some *new fresh* outlooks/brainstorms now, for the next generation of reef conservers :wink:

I am havin a little bit of a hard time, sifting thru the *field mud* though, since there are so many differant people pointing fingers in a 360 degree radius...imo
I get confused :? :? :?
And have started askin questions:?: :?: :?:

Since it is common knowledge to most that, thats how you learn,

also that

*IGNORANCE* is strength, to some :wink: and, *KNOWLEDGE* is power to
others :wink:
soely imo

 

[coralfarmin]

For clarity Vitz

The grant proposal is something I am working on, to submit to my main 2 idols,*FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE* not congress
I thought it was a, euphemisim, mabey it was a parable or a analogy or even some other word, used as a indirect statment :? :? :?
I dont know :wink: :wink: :wink:
I would love for you to join the potential *new worlds* future team though :wink:
Real live Grant Proposals, could be outlined later :wink:

Once the *world* is ,up to speed

The *potential new world*(RE-CAP) site, would only be *specific* to the *CAUSE*, and its leaders,soldiers & patriots 8)
As a wise man once told me
*EVERYONE* has a place in the *REFORM* movment :wink:

Hopefuly the world, will open to embrace the *New World* with open arms
soely imo

 

[Anonymous]

you may want to do some research into the whole grant proposal process-it's fairly involved, and there's fierce competition for pieces of the pie...

do you think you have a better chance at beating NOAA than CORL does ?

you're actually better off, and have a better chance at, getting private funding


if you're an 'amateur start-up' org, you have about a 0 chance of getting funding from any gov't org. :wink:

 

[coralfarmin]

mabey you did not comprehend what I said above,please reread
the potential (RE-CAP) program is not actualy targeting grants *yet*
I do have some potential, private funders targeted, already
thanks agin for your support

just tryin to filter out the *apostates*

If we could ever create *world order*, with everyone on the same page, there would be no competition :wink:

ie..everyone works together as a team of trained professionals, tryin to achive a collective goal

Run by the potential *CORLWORL* government, with the 2 main *experianced and true hearted field sloggers* "imo", drivin the bus :wink: I love that word *slog*

One likes to talk about collectin fish, like another of *mankinds* idols, the other likes to talk about coralfarmin, like me
I'd slog around the world for them guys :wink: if they'd accept me into their congregation.....I mean government
soely imo

 

[coralfarmin]

What I am tryin to say, Vitz
I feel, a potential (World Organized Reef Lovers) program used as a *acro*nym
To form a online (RE-CAP) *WORLD ORGANIZED* reef conservation awareness *training* program.
I feel, this could potintialy be the *go between bridge* that potentialy could (RE-CAP) the *gap between the world and reef conservation awareness *training*.

I have thought up a world wide slogan even already.

sorry everyone

just my feeble attempt at (*Political Correctness), with a corrective plan of action :wink:
for reef conservationests around the world.

just all my unbias analysis, from my uneducated mind *literaly*
soely imo

 

[coralfarmin]

Who said, politics and religion dont mix :?:when you understand the concept of *human nature*
when doing a uneducated,moral fiber,analysis
once agin everything in this thread is soely based on my opinions and nothin more :wink:
And my new founded concepts,for my dream of a *new world*

Then I woke up and started to think outside *my box*

After a short reflection *outside my box*
I wanted all my world wide idols,of all congregations,I mean governments
To work together to form *world power* I mean...take over the world*JUST KIDDIN* :wink:
soely imo

 

[Mike King]

CF if you’re serious about starting a Not for Profit Organization (NPO) you need several things; A Mission Statement, Goals, Objectives to reach your goals, A Board of Directors that supports the above and adds strength to accomplishing the goals and objectives, Approval from the IRS as to the status you applied for.
You also need to file for a non profit business license with the state your organization is going to be registered in.
(Get a Lawyer to file the needed paperwork it’s worth it).

And before CORL can start collaborating with your organization we need a copy of your organizations letter of Determination from the US IRS. (All funding Institutions, both Governmental and private will require this before they even consider an org. for funding).

Then once all that’s done, you can join the dog eat dog struggle to obtain grants and funding.

When starting CORL it took us 3 years just to obtain the 501-©-3 IRS determination letter, it has taken much longer than that to start obtaining grants and funding.

It’s the same as being a student fresh out of college; do you have any work experience? But in the NPO world it’s also, what’s your track record? And who do you have aboard? (Along with several hundred or so additional questions and request).

CORL collaborates with several other orgs here and tries to work as just as closely with the local and federal government departments as possible on projects. The trend today in obtaining funding is to bring together as many groups as possible to fulfill the goals of a project. I think that this is what you are trying to do with the NPO you are thinking about starting, but you first need to set the foundation of the organization before being taken seriously.

If you can find organization that agrees with your mission statement, goals, and objectives they may cover your org. under what’s called an “umbrella organization” while you wait upon your IRS status to be granted. These orgs will also most likely want all the information that the IRS wants but will make the decision to cover your org much sooner so you can get things going. (Sorry CORL can’t help you with this, our BOD wouldn’t allow it as we are focused locally at the moment (once CORL-AS receives its own IRS status then we (CORL) would consider looking into it)).

If you’re going to try to obtain sponsorships from the industry and hobbyist I wish you the best of luck, it’s been tried before without much results. CORL has found a few hobbyist, small wholesalers and Cottage Coral Farmers like yourself, that have done what they could to further CORL’s goals but it is far short of what’s needed here to make a difference (I still Thank these hobbyist, companies and their owners greatly for their contributions as they do help no matter how small, only if more had our insights).

Personally I think it would be much better for you to do what you can to run your coral farm as ethically as possible and to then help out by supporting those organizations that already exist (there’s quite a few). Being the director of a NPO is no part time job; it requires 24/7/365 for life (or as long as the BOD wants you around) to really make a difference, especially when the org is new and doesn’t have the backing of big existing organizations to start.

Been there, done that, and still have the compassion to do it all again if need be……

Mike King
Founder and Current Director of CORL.

 

[coralfarmin]

amen

now I need a really long reflection
*out my box*
thank you, very very much for your donation....I mean grant, for more *Knowledge*

 

[coralfarmin]

qoute:mike

do you have any work experiance ?

Yes sir, I would send you my resume, but it would only consist of a limited
education, since a good part of my life was spent home schooled even up to high school,under no established curriculum, just work regime, since we were so far out on the everglade out-skirts, that power was not even established there, at that time

my resume, would only consist of work ethics, honesty,moral fiber and be long as your arm, *established* from work *experiances*, from most of my life, all up and down the eastcoast of the USA :wink:

once agin, thank you very very much, for your power......I mean knowledge

 

[coralfarmin]

oh ya...sorry if this all sounded like *1* big

:lol: *OXY-MORON* to a few of my *potential* congregation members,
I mean new world leaders you know who you are

feel free to pm me, for a *free* private tutation consultation

I love all reef conservers :wink:

 

[Anonymous]

Another good tip is to find an excellent grant writer. They typically lurk around college campuses. :wink:

 

[coralfarmin]

Huh...The only lurker ...I know of, who imo*loved* hangin at the campus is *wade* any other suggestions ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I only been to view his reef tank once, a long long time ago at a frag swap he cordinated..he probably dont even remember me

besides he lives 45 mins away, and I only pass the lake weeler rd exit, regularly on the way to RDU to pick up transshipments of *coral*...so it would be kinda hard to get together and brain storm any

*potential plans of action*

 

[mkirda]

Who said, politics and religion dont mix :?:when you understand the concept of *human nature*
when doing a uneducated,moral fiber,analysis
once agin everything in this thread is soely based on my opinions and nothin more :wink:
And my new founded concepts,for my dream of a *new world*

Then I woke up and started to think outside *my box*

After a short reflection *outside my box*
I wanted all my world wide idols,of all congregations,I mean governments
To work together to form *world power* I mean...take over the world*JUST KIDDIN* :wink:
soely imo

Eddie,

If you are even remotely serious, here is my advice to you.

You cannot do doo-doo from where you sit. You need to head over the big pond and examine the reefs firsthand, spend some time with the fishermen, and do a lot of diving. It helps enormously to speak their language. It also helps to forget everything that you *think* you know, and head over with a clean slate and open mind and be prepared to *LEARN* and *OBSERVE*.

So start learning Bahasa or Tagalog - You are better off knowing the two languages closest to the respective 'national' languages, even if the fishermen don't speak these to each other. They will at least understand you. Most will not understand a lick of English.

Convince me you are serious, I might help. It would be good to have someone besides myself try.

Regards.
Mike Kirda
Who just returned from the field and has a doo-doo-load to tell...

 

[coralfarmin]

ok nas...most of this was just my feeble attempt at political correctness,imo

but then I got serious, I know this won't happen overnight

I am also curious to learn about the common religions on differant islands around the world,since I am going to try to target church funders as well, and try to collaborate with missonarys who want to spread the word and create economic incentives for their followers, while they do it,if this is possible.My kids god mother and wifes aunt, owns a charity auction business that auctions antiques and art work mainly for churches,and has been in it for many many years in south florida she sets up auctions all the way from California to the keys, so it would be fairly easy for me to get together with major churchs and a few artists to brainstorm,she has been try'n to get us to move there and take over her business, so it is family owned and operated,since she has no kids,she also used to be on a soap (as the world turns) and a few more things, one is, a recent soap production, Miami Sands, that was filmed for Europe,so it would be easy to get her to help me with a dvd production, and any other matters,that would need addressing

I am really just learnin now though

I will pm you later Nas,thanks for the support

 

[Anonymous]

Better choose the religion really carefully Religion has been forced on the islanders for many many moons, you know, by every nation that has "settled" and set up colonies. Let's say you go to west Bali or Mindinoa and go with the voice of God (bible belivers), you won't be excepted You won't live long in Mindinoa, that's for sure. You'll have to embrace Islam for that adventure. When dealing witht he city folk in Indo, going with the bible won't hurt, until you try to deal with non city folk. Bali's main religion is a type of Hinduism (Dharma), and they are surrounded by Islam by most neighboring nations. The Philippines mainly accept the bible, except for the rebal regions, which embrace Islam. Just don't mention the Spanish of Japanesse to them. Just about every religion has an outpost in Tonga, so no trouble there getting excepted. The Mormons have the best food at their events, from what I hear

Faith Based will probably land you some grant money from the Bush camp Might not get you anywhere in your mision though.