Lost Opportunity?

[JennM]

Q: If this is for real, why the anonymity?



A: Ever heard the expression "don't shoot the messenger?" Well, I'd rather people not spam the messenger either. That said, it's incredibly easy to find out who has filed a FOIA request to NOAA. But if you're not that search-engine savy and you still really want to know who I am, please just contact me via the email address above. ;-)

Why don't you email and find out who it is? Others have.

Jenn

 

[StevenPro]

I already know who it is. That is why I doubt their credibility. The same individual has previously attacked other people, registered on every conceivable message board to attack Eric on his salt study, and now this.

 

[JennM]

So why do you suppose they have an ax to grind then?

Jenn

 

[StevenPro]

I think they like causing trouble, stirring up controversy, and the attention it brings upon them.

 

[StevenPro]

You have to remember that the certified letter that Eric sent the FKNMS has not been displayed on that website. It paints a very different picture. The question is why did the website creator or sanctuary people not produce it?

 

[JennM]

I don't know - perhaps they haven't received it yet?

Why doesn't Eric post it, in order to clear the air, and his reputation? Seems to me that if that's all it would take, it would certainly be easy enough to do.

Jenn

 

[StevenPro]

It damages other people. It doesn't seem right to release information that clears him but hurts others all to disprove one person with a campaign against him and to satisfy the curiosities of others.

 

[JennM]

So he's throwing himself on his sword? :roll:

So if he sues the people going after him, like he threatened before the MD thread went POOF, won't that all come out eventually?

Seems worth the trouble of preventing a law suit to just clear the air - but hey, that's just me.

It's clear that more than one party has egg on their face - I just find the whole thing fascinating, and more than a little troubling.

Jenn

 

[dizzy]

It damages other people. It doesn't seem right to release information that clears him but hurts others all to disprove one person with a campaign against him and to satisfy the curiosities of others.

Steven,
Do you own the quote above or are you speaking for someone else?
Mitch

 

[Anonymous]

"This is just another in a seemingly undending series of tragic attempts to discredit my work spanning some several years now by persons unaware and uninvolved in any of the issues."

That about sums it up for me.

 

[pyrrhus]

I wonder if the certified letter is privy to a FOIA request.

 

[StevenPro]

It damages other people. It doesn't seem right to release information that clears him but hurts others all to disprove one person with a campaign against him and to satisfy the curiosities of others.

Steven,
Do you own the quote above or are you speaking for someone else?
Mitch

I paraphrased.

 

[Anonymous]

I think they like causing trouble, stirring up controversy, and the attention it brings upon them.

Why is the above post different than the website in question?

 

[StevenPro]

I have not started anything. I have merely commented on things brought up. At least for me, that is where I see the distinction. If I were to start searching around for information the the website creator and make up a website to spew forth what I found, that would be different, at least from my point of view.

 

[Anonymous]

"This is just another in a seemingly undending series of tragic attempts to discredit my work spanning some several years now by persons unaware and uninvolved in any of the issues."

That about sums it up for me.

I certainly hope that this isn't EB. If so, give me your milk money.

 

[sihaya]

Wow... how did I miss this thread?

Inwall: LOL

Steven is standing up for Eric because he THINKS I haven't posted all the information I have... even though I've posted the FOIA request #s and it would be quite easy to verify that I have. Apparently he has his own "ax to grind" with me (I guess because he thinks my posts and websites get too much attention :roll: ). Unless he's still irked by my salt study critique. Though I don't know why he'd care about that either, since even he admits the study is quite limited (to say the least).

I wonder if the certified letter is privy to a FOIA request.

It's probably not (else I should have received it by now). Hypothetically... IF Eric ranted on and on about how it was all everyone else's fault but his own (i.e. things that have nothing to do with the provisions of the permit), then that may be why it's not privy to FOIA request.

 

[wrott]

Wow... how did I miss this thread?

Inwall: LOL

Steven is standing up for Eric because he THINKS I haven't posted all the information I have... even though I've posted the FOIA request #s and it would be quite easy to verify that I have. Apparently he has his own "ax to grind" with me (I guess because he thinks my posts and websites get too much attention :roll: ). Unless he's still irked by my salt study critique. Though I don't know why he'd care about that either, since even he admits the study is quite limited (to say the least).

I wonder if the certified letter is privy to a FOIA request.

It's probably not (else I should have received it by now). Hypothetically... IF Eric ranted on and on about how it was all everyone else's fault but his own (i.e. things that have nothing to do with the provisions of the permit), then that may be why it's not privy to FOIA request.

Exactly how many boards have you spammed about this?

You know I would have taken your website more seriously, and maybe even cared a little, but you are just pushing a little too hard on this

I dont know you, Eric or anyone involved but even to me it is glaringly obvious that you have a personal vendetta here. You seriously need a hobby or something because you must spend about 10 hours a day keeping up with all the websites you have spammed with this issue lol.

 

[Anonymous]

Anything new?

 

[sihaya]

Exactly how many boards have you spammed about this?

I haven't started a single thread on this... and I've only posted on less than HALF the the forums it's been posted on.

You know I would have taken your website more seriously, and maybe even cared a little

If you really do care about the project and the information provided, then my personal posting habits shouldn't have any effect on that. Unless... maybe you're just hoping that if you preface your judgments of my character with a statement that you genuinely care, I'll feel bad about myself I reevaluate my actions and indeed, maybe even my whole life. :roll:


Aerosmith: Not really. The "discussion" has moved mostly off the forums and a bit outside the hobby even. I'll let you know as soon as I know if anything comes of any of that....

 

[sihaya]

Aerosmith... btw, I'll let you know over PM if I learn anything new. If it's major news (and documented) it will be posted on teh site. I actually don't want to post anymore on this topic in forums. I just didn't know this thread existed and thought I'd state just once more that all the documents have been posted... and that I still have not received any more documents from the NOAA FOIA office. Since it's been a > 6 months now, I doubt I'll get anymore... unfortunately.