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Ceramic Frag Disks
- Thread starter cmoresps
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Not sure if this is what your looking for but this site sells a 50-pack of ceramic discs for like 15$
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewI..._Ceramic_Frag_Disks_Coral_Mounts~vendor~.html
HTH
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewI..._Ceramic_Frag_Disks_Coral_Mounts~vendor~.html
HTH
A place that grows frags? Thank you thank you very much.
So would it be a store that only carries frags exclusively? Fascinating.
What would be the average price per frag? How can a retailer turn a profit selling frags exclusively? Are there no fish?
I have never seen a "frag shop" and would love to learn more. In fact, there are no "frag shops" anywhere in my geographic region. Perhaps I just dont know the market very well. If you can point me to a "frag shop" that is near me in Kentucky then please advise. I like to learn about new business models and perhaps you can enlighten me.
Many thank in advance for your reply.
Caterham is cracking me up, lol. The definition of a frag shop would be "a place that specializes in rare and exotic frags, e.g. coral farm". By "shop" it was meant "e-shop", or internet based. It all depends on who you know as to whether or not you make money,lol. I would be happy to post my url if its not going to offend anyone, I seriously dont know if they get cheesed about posting your own site. Im on the other side of those pesky mountains in Va. Ive got pieces that range from $20 to $119 depending on their scarcity.
Extreme, bingo, thats them. Best plugs I have ever used, and the pin on the bottom snaps off easily without breaking the disk, and they dont impact ph, no cure time
Extreme, bingo, thats them. Best plugs I have ever used, and the pin on the bottom snaps off easily without breaking the disk, and they dont impact ph, no cure time
cmoresps,
Thanks so much for the reply.
So a "frag shop" is a source for frags where folks can come to your internet site and purchase them. I guess you have a system or two in your basement, garage or wherever and you operate an online store from your residence.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you ever allow walk-ins?
Thanks so much for the reply.
So a "frag shop" is a source for frags where folks can come to your internet site and purchase them. I guess you have a system or two in your basement, garage or wherever and you operate an online store from your residence.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you ever allow walk-ins?
Caterham,
That is commonly how frags of coral are grown. They are then sold or traded amongst the hobbyists and occasionally to the industry. I encourage it as a trend to aquaculture more coral. Small scale production is as good as large scale as the summation is important.
You should try and attend our 2008 frag meeting-------Race
That is commonly how frags of coral are grown. They are then sold or traded amongst the hobbyists and occasionally to the industry. I encourage it as a trend to aquaculture more coral. Small scale production is as good as large scale as the summation is important.
You should try and attend our 2008 frag meeting-------Race
Caterham,
Unfortunately in most situations localities dont allow you to have a business license in your residence and conduct physical transactions on the premise (meaning have your doors open). However, I have heard of cases where it could be done by appointment. Believe or not, this industry is fairly competitive and at times, at least in Richmond, petty, and the certain local stores will do what they can to squash you. I am looking into whether or not I might legally be able to have people over by appointment.
Oldgrayhair, thanks for the info, I will definately make the call, those plugs are awesome
Unfortunately in most situations localities dont allow you to have a business license in your residence and conduct physical transactions on the premise (meaning have your doors open). However, I have heard of cases where it could be done by appointment. Believe or not, this industry is fairly competitive and at times, at least in Richmond, petty, and the certain local stores will do what they can to squash you. I am looking into whether or not I might legally be able to have people over by appointment.
Oldgrayhair, thanks for the info, I will definately make the call, those plugs are awesome
Race":1dfgywg4 said:Caterham,
That is commonly how frags of coral are grown. They are then sold or traded amongst the hobbyists and occasionally to the industry. I encourage it as a trend to aquaculture more coral. Small scale production is as good as large scale as the summation is important.
You should try and attend our 2008 frag meeting-------Race
Catherham, Race is absolutely correct. As a matter of fact, cutting edge LFSs in Vancouver offer many more frags than wild.
It is vital to industry's survival that they adopt eco-friendly options for fish, inverts and coral.
Wayne Ryan
Wayne,
Not sure of Caterham's motive but if you review his posts, he generally wants justification for things that he does not understand or agree with. He even wanted me to send him a cat once,---- which I declined. There are already many TICA and CFA cats and kittens available on the internet.
Fragging is very much a future of our hobby as far as some coral go. Yes, it hurts my own personal coral frag sales when the hobbyists sell their own but I could care less about the revenue. I am not in it for the money.
I encourage all coral hobbyists to learn the art of fragging. We will even teach, should you care to attend our 2008 Foster and Smith Frag and Fish Conference in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
Fragging is a way " to do something about it".------------Race
Not sure of Caterham's motive but if you review his posts, he generally wants justification for things that he does not understand or agree with. He even wanted me to send him a cat once,---- which I declined. There are already many TICA and CFA cats and kittens available on the internet.
Fragging is very much a future of our hobby as far as some coral go. Yes, it hurts my own personal coral frag sales when the hobbyists sell their own but I could care less about the revenue. I am not in it for the money.
I encourage all coral hobbyists to learn the art of fragging. We will even teach, should you care to attend our 2008 Foster and Smith Frag and Fish Conference in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
Fragging is a way " to do something about it".------------Race
Race
I think most members of this forum might say that I have been very critical of industry's lack of action in reeforming the way they do business.
It is refreshing to read your posts on this thread and to read that you are teaching fragging to hobbyists and industry.
You have no idea how happy I am to see you lead the way.
Thank you
Wayne Ryan
I think most members of this forum might say that I have been very critical of industry's lack of action in reeforming the way they do business.
It is refreshing to read your posts on this thread and to read that you are teaching fragging to hobbyists and industry.
You have no idea how happy I am to see you lead the way.
Thank you
Wayne Ryan
I don't have a problem with people fragging their corals and trading them, however I think people should be aware of the pests that are being allowed to proliferate in "some" closed systems. Read the article by Eric Borneman for more information http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-09/eb/index.php Here is the first couple of sentences from Eric's article: "In recent years, the practice of trading captive propagated fragments of corals has resulted in the concurrent transfer of pest species. Many years ago, the transfer of pest species was notable with the spread of the nuisance anemones, Aiptasia spp. To date there is still no easy method of completely eradicating these rapidly proliferating anemones once they are established in an aquarium, and they are now found as unwanted hitchhikers from populations established in wholesale, retail and hobbyist aquariums around the world."
Race have you seen any of these pests show up in your system? I know I've had to fight many problems since we first bought some "frags" from some of the early aquaculture facilities.
Mitch
Race have you seen any of these pests show up in your system? I know I've had to fight many problems since we first bought some "frags" from some of the early aquaculture facilities.
Mitch
Wayne, there were others fragging corals long before I came on the scene. What I am doing is becoming part of aquaculture on a larger scale. Bringing it to reality takes time and money, in our case over 1 million dollars in facility costs alone and millions more in labor, supplies and power .
Kevin Kohen and others are really the experts on coral propegation and my part is one mainly of funding and promoting. I do not want any credit where it is not due.
Mitch I would contact Kevin directlyabout the disease incidence. Like any intense farming, the potential will always be there. I am not aware of any major problems in our facility to date, at least that has not been easily controlled with proper husbandry.
RDO has been full of posts with such grandious ideas that they have no hope of ever becoming reality. This is simply a concept that can be put to practice at all levels--- with a result. I like to focus and promote concepts which we can control such as proper husbandry and aquaculture. I can do that without expensive Island vacations and someone elses money.
The more global issues are important but I have not figured out the "how" and no one else has either. I will not discredit those that have tried and that makes me somewhat unique on this board.
Kevin Kohen and others are really the experts on coral propegation and my part is one mainly of funding and promoting. I do not want any credit where it is not due.
Mitch I would contact Kevin directlyabout the disease incidence. Like any intense farming, the potential will always be there. I am not aware of any major problems in our facility to date, at least that has not been easily controlled with proper husbandry.
RDO has been full of posts with such grandious ideas that they have no hope of ever becoming reality. This is simply a concept that can be put to practice at all levels--- with a result. I like to focus and promote concepts which we can control such as proper husbandry and aquaculture. I can do that without expensive Island vacations and someone elses money.
The more global issues are important but I have not figured out the "how" and no one else has either. I will not discredit those that have tried and that makes me somewhat unique on this board.
Naesco,
Thanks so much for your contributions to this thread.
Unfortunately, with absolutely zero past or current involvement in the trade of marine ornamentals there are some folks here is this community that might take your comments somewhat lightly.
I respect your efforts and hope that you continue to stay involved. All good teams have people cheering for them on the sidelines, out of play.
Warmest regards
Thanks so much for your contributions to this thread.
Unfortunately, with absolutely zero past or current involvement in the trade of marine ornamentals there are some folks here is this community that might take your comments somewhat lightly.
I respect your efforts and hope that you continue to stay involved. All good teams have people cheering for them on the sidelines, out of play.
Warmest regards
Caterham":1x6dx61o said:Naesco,
Thanks so much for your contributions to this thread.
Unfortunately, with absolutely zero past or current involvement in the trade of marine ornamentals there are some folks here is this community that might take your comments somewhat lightly.
I respect your efforts and hope that you continue to stay involved. All good teams have people cheering for them on the sidelines, out of play.
Warmest regards
Are you the official Industry forum troll?
Wayne Ryan,
I am not sure of your involvement in the trade but it does not matter. This industry is so ignorant they believe that they will determine future policy. In fact, it will be those outside the trade who will determine the industry's and the hobby's fate and they will do it by observing the mess this industry has created. By mess, I mean lack of unity and direction. The Ponytailers fighting the Etailers rather than all marching forward for the common good of the hobby. AMDA was the perfect dope(s). MASNA is a hope.
Scores and sores of posts right here on RDO of people pushing their own agendas with no thought of the good of the hobby--- in this changing world. Critical of all but do nothing themselves. Their thoughts are generally fronts for their business or Island vacations. The industry shall earn it's future or fate.
I have not given up hope.----------Race
I am not sure of your involvement in the trade but it does not matter. This industry is so ignorant they believe that they will determine future policy. In fact, it will be those outside the trade who will determine the industry's and the hobby's fate and they will do it by observing the mess this industry has created. By mess, I mean lack of unity and direction. The Ponytailers fighting the Etailers rather than all marching forward for the common good of the hobby. AMDA was the perfect dope(s). MASNA is a hope.
Scores and sores of posts right here on RDO of people pushing their own agendas with no thought of the good of the hobby--- in this changing world. Critical of all but do nothing themselves. Their thoughts are generally fronts for their business or Island vacations. The industry shall earn it's future or fate.
I have not given up hope.----------Race
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