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Dubs you too funny... I will admit to this though. My ride is loooowww to the ground and I just googled streets of the new location. My ride is afraid of butler ave. :D

Lmaooo
Are you serious lmaooo
Looooow like mine
 

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piranhapat

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Westchester, N.Y
MY POINT, boys and girls was that I was agreeing with the other poster in that the added distance of 20 more minutes makes it a PITA. Impossible to get to? NOPE... am I going to go to the new store.... mnnnn yeah once in a while...sure but no where near as much as I used to go before. Why? cause new location is more of a PITA and I have other choices at 40-50 minute distances. Max Reef missed the point that he had people that came from CT and North NY (evident by this post) and he was it in this area, moving further south puts him amoung other store competition. Will that work in his favor? only time will tell.

So here is what I'm going to do the next time I go to The new max reef. I'm going to hit all the other stores in that area if I'm already venturing further. I would bet others will do the same too.

In the 16 years I've been in the hobby I've seen my share of great coral stores close. Sal's NY Aquaria for one. Others moved out of the area. However, I can guarantee that someone else will open a new store to fill that void. If their buisness model is to be competative they will do well in this area. Where there is a market demand someone will move in to fill that demand. its just science.

Coralcruze, was that NY Aquaria on Mamaroneck ave. I used to live in the Bronx and visit that place. Better yet I moved to Rye Neck to be 5 min from him. Than the placed closed. That hurt and it was a good store when first open. Once again Westchester has lost it's only fish store. But the drive isn't far for me. But I hear you about used to make weekly visits. It's hard to believe that Westchester at one point had a few places where now there nothing. It just shows you with high rent and over head how much profit can you make in a hobby like this.
 

coralcruze

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Location
Westchester NY
Coralcruze, was that NY Aquaria on Mamaroneck ave. I used to live in the Bronx and visit that place. Better yet I moved to Rye Neck to be 5 min from him. Than the placed closed. That hurt and it was a good store when first open. Once again Westchester has lost it's only fish store. But the drive isn't far for me. But I hear you about used to make weekly visits. It's hard to believe that Westchester at one point had a few places where now there nothing. It just shows you with high rent and over head how much profit can you make in a hobby like this.


Yes sir... that was Sal's place right there on mamaroneck ave. there was another place in larchmont or elmsford (forget the name as they weren't there very long). Anyway, Sal had a great buisness model... excellent customer service at competative prices. Not unlike max.reef. He was there several years and i was happy to support him. I was there 2-3 times a week. many folks were flocking to his store and he had knock out mixed reef dual display tanks.

I used to say that any reef store that actually proves they know what they are doing actually do so by proudly displaying a mixed reef display that actually thrives. Remember reef and fin in CT??? awsome display tank... Greenwich aquaria??? one of the best display tank around... house of fins??? awesome display tank (although they are out of hand with their pricing). The reef store LLC??? OMG the display tank will knock you off your feet.

So, what does all of this mean? simple... YUP the rent is high in our area and many buisnesses fold because of high rent and not filling the need and service. However, only the best of the best stay in buisness and remain in Westchester. From my understanding NY Aquaria had other issues. I will give it a year and someone else will open up in this area to fill demand. Someone always does. Until then I will be going to max and others. :D
 
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It's hard to believe that Westchester at one point had a few places where now there nothing. It just shows you with high rent and over head how much profit can you make in a hobby like this.

There is still a couple in Yonkers, Elmsford (?), Armonk, Bedford Hills...maybe a couple more that I'm not aware of...
 

coralcruze

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Location
Westchester NY
There is still a couple in Yonkers, Elmsford (?), Armonk, Bedford Hills...maybe a couple more that I'm not aware of...

hey Alfie, I think i know which you are refering to in elmsford and yonkers... if they are who I'm thinking, i wont go there for various reasons. But armonk and bedford hills? you have me stumped... I knew of a place in mt kisco i used to frequent and was a decent store but they too went out of buisness. can you PM me the two in armonk and bedford hills? I wasn't aware.
 

coralcruze

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Location
Westchester NY
NYA and old 'exotic pet warehouse' in Yonkers, Jawz in Elmsford, Complete Aquarium in Bedford Hills (same pricing as Greenwich) and Haaki in Armonk... Pete's place in Hartsdale (never been there)... Any more?

wow I've been missin out. LOL, sometimes I got blinders on and cant see whats right in front of me. a sure sign of aging :eek:
 
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thefuz

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Location
Norwalk, CT
True. However, most of those other stores mentioned can't remotely compare on economics and variety of livestock. EPW in Yonkers isn't remotely worthwhile for SW though their freshwater stuff is decent. I haven't been to Jawz so can't comment there. I'll certainly agree on the sentiment with that Bedford Hills store. Greenwich Aquaria is quite good when they throw off a sale, which are presented with good frequency, and their displays are incredible (though they're rebuilding the large one as of a week or so ago). House of Fins consolidated and are mostly SW now. The new display tank is impressive though needs some seasoning (snorkel gear required for that puppy). The Coral Reef in Stratford is definitely well worth the drive for you NY folks (turnabout is fair play for hoarding Maximum all these years!!). Frags galore.

All said, I live in Norwalk and won't drop my frequency of trips to Ralph's awesome joint. Thanks for keeping the lights on and feeding our reef addictions. Although now I need to find a place to replace chicken parms from Carlo's!!!
 

coralcruze

Advanced Reefer
Location
Westchester NY
True. However, most of those other stores mentioned can't remotely compare on economics and variety of livestock. EPW in Yonkers isn't remotely worthwhile for SW though their freshwater stuff is decent. I haven't been to Jawz so can't comment there. I'll certainly agree on the sentiment with that Bedford Hills store. Greenwich Aquaria is quite good when they throw off a sale, which are presented with good frequency, and their displays are incredible (though they're rebuilding the large one as of a week or so ago). House of Fins consolidated and are mostly SW now. The new display tank is impressive though needs some seasoning (snorkel gear required for that puppy). The Coral Reef in Stratford is definitely well worth the drive for you NY folks (turnabout is fair play for hoarding Maximum all these years!!). Frags galore.

All said, I live in Norwalk and won't drop my frequency of trips to Ralph's awesome joint. Thanks for keeping the lights on and feeding our reef addictions. Although now I need to find a place to replace chicken parms from Carlo's!!!

I can agree with most of what you say. I would not even bother with Jawz or EPW when it comes to SW IMHO. Man... the coral reef LLC is looking so much closer to me now. I had a great convo with the owner about the setup, full of knowledge and real cool dude. I'm sure I will be heading there soon. damn you :sgrin:
 
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