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lazyreefer 03-24-2009 03:36 PM

Sanjay's Clowns Club
 
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I got these from the first batch Sanjay was selling. post some pics of yours!

autoponicz 03-24-2009 03:40 PM

wow...your guys are pretty dark already...mine are only starting to tan up...

masterswimmer 03-24-2009 03:49 PM

Tae, looking very very nice. You're obviously doing them proud.

Russ

ellebelle 03-24-2009 04:27 PM

Wow, mine are still very very orange. (Ignore the second picture - I was going to use this as a shutter speed comparison). This is the smaller one - the larger one looks to be getting a little darker.

https://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...eedISOcomp.jpg

For reference, here is the same fish the day I got it in February, about a month and a half ago:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/...647b766f86.jpg

prattreef 03-24-2009 04:29 PM

Wow Tae, those are the darkest ones I've seen. Mine still look more like ellebelles. I'll try to get a pic tomorrow.

sanjay 03-24-2009 05:52 PM

Thanks for posting the pics.

Its interesting that they are developing the black coloration at such a different pace.

I just a few pics, taken today, of the three from the same batch that I threw into my 5G tank a few months ago. They are all the same age, in the same environment and yet have different amounts of black in them so far. These fish are only 7 months old, and its well known for Onxy percs to take more than a year to get all their black color.

this one was almost all orange up until a few weeks ago. Its a loner and the ones that have paired up chase it away.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...d-1-032409.gif

this is the larger of the pair, and will be the female eventually. She has not developed the same amount of black as the other 2.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...d-2-032409.gif

this is the blackest one I have so far. The male of the pair.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...d-3-032409.gif


Here is a bunch of them at 4.5 months old.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...d-4-032409.gif

Hope to the see the pictures of the others that are in your tanks.

sanjay.

masterswimmer 03-24-2009 06:31 PM

Hey S, I'd like the 4th one down 9th from the left and the 15th one down 22nd from the right. :rolleyes:

BTW, they look great.

R

tangale 03-24-2009 08:02 PM

Hi, what's the difference between an onyx clownfish in comparison to the black clownfishes that I see at my lfs? Are they one of the same?

lazyreefer 03-24-2009 09:20 PM

The female (second picture) is nowhere as black as the male (first pic). I wonder if the males develops the blacks faster than the females.

sanjay 03-25-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tangale (Post 581117)
Hi, what's the difference between an onyx clownfish in comparison to the black clownfishes that I see at my lfs? Are they one of the same?

The first picture what an Onyx would look like. It is a Percula species of clownfish. The 2nd is a black Ocellaris.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...0/parents2.jpg


They are both different species.

sanjay.

Arati 03-25-2009 01:26 PM

Im sorry I have zero photo skills.

So I took some video of " The Pandi" as we now call them. 1/2 Panda and 1/2 Jedi since they are a hybred..of coarse:duh:

These fish are great and the 2x250w radium I think have tanned them up!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...h_MVI_1734.jpg

lazyreefer 03-25-2009 02:40 PM

I also have my clowns under bright lights (250W MH on a 25 gallon tank). maybe this is getting them darker faster...

sanjay 03-25-2009 02:42 PM

Thanks for the video.

Yours have developed a lot of black. It is the first one I have see with an all black tail. !!

sanjay.

autoponicz 03-25-2009 09:54 PM

heres my clowns...they have been getting darker...but slowly...i see some black dots developing ..the bigger one has been getting the most black so far..

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l7...m/DSC_0642.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l7...m/DSC_0646.jpg

Sandyp1 03-25-2009 10:12 PM

Ive never seen that many clown fish in one picture ! Do you have any left ? (Seems like a dumb question with so many in the pix )

aaron23 03-25-2009 11:51 PM

pictures look fantastic all the clowns look SWEET :D

Pinkheine 03-26-2009 12:00 AM

Gorgeous!

fallenlordz 03-26-2009 06:21 AM

cool clowns

nycpassat 03-26-2009 08:18 PM

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Here's my little guy with black spots, he's darkening up nicely

https://www.manhattanreefs.com/galler...0002_85723.jpg

autoponicz 03-26-2009 09:03 PM

could it be what you guys feed that makes them darker so fast?

Pinkheine 03-27-2009 08:09 AM

Question: we have two clownfishes. They have gotten blotchy/black spots like some pictured here in this thread. I thought it was possibly because they are hosting corals and the corals are aggrivated by it and stinging them causing these markings. Though upon looking at them it seems as if their black may be growing into more black.

I will have to get a pic and post to see if this is possible. Okay.. Anyone know how common this occurs? Can they get these black pigments around their mouths? (One of ours entire lips have turned black, I thought it was from him tasting the coral (hammer and zoas they are hosting) or is it that he is changing) Is there anyway to tell or time will tell?

Arati 03-27-2009 08:24 AM

I think you are right on Pinkheine. Even though some clownfish will develope more darkness with age. Hosting in stinging corals can cause them to get black spots. My clownfish have pink lips from the RBTA they suckle at.

The spots are a form of Melanism and are most likely caused by the the corals they are hosting and nothing to worry about.

There is a slim chance it can be dietary imbalance. Make sure you are feeding a variety of meaty foods as well as a bit of greens.

Good luck,
Chris

Pinkheine 03-27-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Arati (Post 582490)
I think you are right on Pinkheine. Even though some clownfish will develope more darkness with age. Hosting in stinging corals can cause them to get black spots. My clownfish have pink lips from the RBTA they suckle at.

The spots are a form of Melanism and are most likely caused by the the corals they are hosting and nothing to worry about.

There is a slim chance it can be dietary imbalance. Make sure you are feeding a variety of meaty foods as well as a bit of greens.

Good luck,
Chris

Alright I really wasn't sure. These clownfish are taking pellets, flake and a large variety of different foods. An entire shelf in my freezer in dedicated to fish food :lol: I have spent more money on food than corals for sure.. if that makes any sense. Though that is why my skimmer works overtime because I like them to be fed happily.. HAHAHA

I really have no knowledge on the subject only from reading an article here or there... I also don't know if these are tank raised or wild caught clownfishes, I didn't even ask. :o Thanks for the input. :)

nycpassat 03-27-2009 10:02 AM

I feed them Formula Two pellets. In the past, I've had frogspawns, BTAs, and other branching corals host my clownfish and they developed black spots as well. But this one does not. He mostly swims and hangs out at the top of tank and i've never seen him get near any of my corals. When I had first got him, he was almost entirely orange and I now see new black spots on him everyday :)

Malibu361 03-27-2009 09:42 PM

Has anyone addded them to a tank with clowns already present?If so any aggression issues?

autoponicz 04-02-2009 03:15 PM

the established clowns will most like be aggressive towards the new clown...how many do you have in the tank...?

one way is to use a breeder container and house the new fish in there for a few weeks and let the clowns get used to having another addition before letting him out..

Malibu361 04-02-2009 03:21 PM

2 clowns currently...

NYReefer 04-02-2009 03:49 PM

Will these clowns turn completely black over time??

prattreef 04-02-2009 03:52 PM

no one knows-- that is the cool part-- seeing what happens with them.

autoponicz 04-02-2009 03:55 PM

are the 2 clowns mated?,,,they might not accept the 3rd one...the extra clown may become a loner...i think 2 in a tank is enough though..

+1 with prattreef.....its a whole lotta fun watching them change..

NYReefer 04-02-2009 04:11 PM

coooool :tongue1: i will def keep an eye on this thread.. are there any species that turn completely black or is it just luck of the draw with genetics?? ive seen random pics of fully black ones.. jw

prattreef 04-02-2009 04:13 PM

Here ya go-- read the Article:

https://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...is-darwin.html

NYReefer 04-02-2009 04:32 PM

haha thats funny i goolgled onyx clownfish and i clicked on a pic and brought me to that article.. pretty cool

sanjay 04-02-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NYReefer (Post 585821)
Will these clowns turn completely black over time??

Even if they do not turn fully black, they will still end up looking like very beautiful onyx clownfish. This is what I am seeing based on the development so far. Personally, I would much rather they not turn fully black, but retain some orange.

sanjay 04-02-2009 11:08 PM

This is how I wish they should stay for ever..... way better looking than any Onyx I have seen.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...rid-040209.gif

sanjay.

prattreef 04-02-2009 11:34 PM

Wow that is awesome!!!! My pair looks nothing like that:(..... yet:)

autoponicz 04-02-2009 11:47 PM

wow...love the way your hybrid looks sanjay...
thats the male right...?
what kind of food do you feed them..
oh... and what lighting....
haha...thanks

actually lazyreefer's clown looks like yours too..thats a good sign

NYReefer 04-03-2009 04:10 PM

i was likeing the idea of all black but after checking out a bunch of pics I def agree a little orange is better and the one in your picture is amazing!! Im going to have to get my hands on a pair of these in the future!!

oceangallery 04-03-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Malibu361 (Post 582819)
Has anyone addded them to a tank with clowns already present?If so any aggression issues?

How about Sanjays hybrid and an ORA Semi-Picasso? They are best buds!!

sanjay 04-19-2009 04:01 PM

Here is a picture of these clownfish that was just sold by liveaquaria.com

http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...ish_(Pair).jpg

sanjay.


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