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toastii

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this is my new tank! ((havent actually bought it yet though)
 

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toastii

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cant remeber- i'll find out
i can get that tank or the 75 with the HO T-5 light (iff i buy the light so thats like how much more money?)
 

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so im going back to the aquarium store today
take measurments
see how much prices/values compare with one anoher and make my decision
see how much the t-5 light costs-
they have decently priced ones at fosters but idk about a LFS

and i can pretty much put anything in a 75 right? cept for certain thiings that i dont want to care for to begin with or dont have the capabillity of doing

but no matter what im sticking to my goby/erectus seahorse friendly deal
so it will be more or less reefish

what are non stinging anything that areeasy /moderate to take care for
 

toastii

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ok soooo i am gettting the 75gallon!!!! im actually really excited i always thought this was out of my range completely

but its not!!!!!
im sooo excited
i guess this isnt a nano tank ...
but my mom agreed and seemed supportive

so the tank is 75gl tank and nice stand anf t-5lighting for 580$ AND with that package you get 20% off of anything else you need in the store!!
 

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idk if im gonna keep corals im gonna writeout two plans

any corals i keep are gonna either be softies or polyps

what are candy corals.. do they sting (LPS/SPS?)
what about frog spawn-
my mom wants some other neat fish but i wil have to see whats compatible with my plans
 

toastii

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As for corals that are seahorse safe I would say Kenya tree(the horses will hitch on), zoo's(EXTREMELY colorful and come in all colors imaginable), Green star polyps(neon green and sways in the current), xenia(personally my favorite coral cause it pulses), and last but not least mushrooms and rics. I think that all of these would be great additions to any tank and they arent too light demanding either

thats what i got from someone so im just gonna stick to those-
 

toastii

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also

i have a question on tank sizing and min tank size per fish

if you get a hippo tang and put it in a 75gl and the min tank size is what 55-70? what would that mean to the bio load if you added another fish which min tank size was 40 or 60?
what about all the other fish
cuz i see ppl with lots of fish in their tanks (different sized fish) big and little with like a 55- 100 gl tanks...

how many fish could you theoretically put in a 75 gl?
lets say if i wanted
clowns
gobies
firefish
yellow tang or
hippo tang
what other fish... hm
wrasse?

could you have at least one of each of those? how many of each could/ should i have? if i could have one of each in there?
what are cool schooling fish?


(also can an eel live in a reef tank? with other fish? or would it eat them)
 

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disclaimer- idk if all those fish are compatible and im not saying thats what im putting in my tank
this question is hypothetical to get an idea so i dont over stock my tank
 

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Minimum tank size is about space for the fish to comfortably swim. It has nothing to do with bioload. So yes, you can have multiple fish that "require" large tanks.

As for bioload, it's not really clear how much is too much and a lot depends on your set up (filtration equipment, amount of live rock, etc.). The more fish you have, the more important that stuff becomes and the more difficult maintinence becomes. Take a look at some of the setup posts on this site and maybe get a feel for what's appropriate.

In my 75 I have 5 fish: 2 ocellaris clowns, a royal gramma, a coral beauty and a yellow tang. I probably could get away with one or two more, but I think the tank looks full enough as it is.

I find the territorial nature of many fishes has stopped me at certain points too. Like people, fish like their private property too.

Fish choices:
A hippo tang gets over 12 inches I think. I would definately go with a yellow tang or other of comparable size (8 inch-ish).

Schooling fishes:
Chromis: look like damsels though not aggressive, very easy
Flasher wrasse: a bit more sensitive, very beautiful

Eels: eats your other fish and rearranges your rocks
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Minimum tank size is about space for the fish to comfortably swim. It has nothing to do with bioload. So yes, you can have multiple fish that "require" large tanks.

As for bioload, it's not really clear how much is too much and a lot depends on your set up (filtration equipment, amount of live rock, etc.). The more fish you have, the more important that stuff becomes and the more difficult maintinence becomes. Take a look at some of the setup posts on this site and maybe get a feel for what's appropriate.

In my 75 I have 5 fish: 2 ocellaris clowns, a royal gramma, a coral beauty and a yellow tang. I probably could get away with one or two more, but I think the tank looks full enough as it is.

I find the territorial nature of many fishes has stopped me at certain points too. Like people, fish like their private property too.

Fish choices:
A hippo tang gets over 12 inches I think. I would definately go with a yellow tang or other of comparable size (8 inch-ish).

Schooling fishes:
Chromis: look like damsels though not aggressive, very easy
Flasher wrasse: a bit more sensitive, very beautiful

Eels: eats your other fish and rearranges your rocks
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thank you!
so im still debating if i want a medium lighted full blown reef tank
or if i want a seahorse safe reef tank

but in a 75 as lon as the corals were non stinging i could have a pair of seahorses and a pair of clowns- thats enough room for all to swim- hmm

thank you on the fish suggestion!

i have read confliscting information about hippos
that the min size is 55gl and that they rarely get above i think 6-8in in an aquarium- but idk?
 

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If I understand correctly, seahorses are slow, methodic feeders. Even peaceful, little clowns are voracious feeders when the my frozen brine goes in the water. I fear that, in order to make sure your seahorses get food, you're going to have to overfeed a lot leading to other problems.

I don't know that that would be the case (I've never kept seahorses), but it may be something to look into.
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toastii

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i prolly wouldnt do clowns if i were to do seahorses
im trying to make that decision--
i know my mom would love to have all the pretty fish and she wants clowns
so i think my dwarves are all the seahorses im gonna get for now--
i could put my seahorses food in a feeder on a certain side of the tank that they would kno to go to (someone else had seahorses with clowns with no problem as he just was very carefull about feeding)
and feed the clowns on the other side or directly before seahorse food-

idk i think im gonna do a reef tank- no leathers though.. because of

im gonna research lighting for some hard corals

are hard corals basically gonna be MH?
and get fishy! pretty colored fishy
 

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Okay, so I personally only have a filter and a skimmer on my 56 gallon FOWLR. I don't think you really have a need for airlines and pumps. The filter and skimmer will move your oxygenated water around enough that it should be fine, unless you want high flow, which I don't think you do if you are going to have seahorses in the tank.

I could be wrong on this, and someone correct me if I am, but that is my experience.

Plus, just FYI, in my first saltwater tank, I had an oscellaris clown and a yellow watchman goby in with a seahorse. I can't remember what kind, it was a while ago, but so long as I paid careful attention at feeding time, everyone got along great. I taught my seahorse to eat in one corner, so she would go there at feeding time and wait for me. Sadly, we had a power failure, and everyone died while I wasn't home. But the point is, I made a mixed species tank work, it just takes a little more work and observation.
 

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