vodka dosing?

[anthony27]

are you running gfo in a reactor or any thing esle.

 

[DrHarryLopez]

I read that a GFO is not really needed and many considers it redundant. I'm not going to buy one. Actually here is the quote from

[SIZE=+1]Vodka Dosing...Distilled![/SIZE]
A Powerful Method for the Reduction of
Nitrates and Phosphates within the Reef Aquaria
by Nathaniel A. Walton (Genetics) and Matt Bjornson (Stony_Corals)​

"Essentially, by carbon source additions, the same net result is being achieved. It may even be counterproductive to run GFO while dosing an organic carbon source as both nitrate and phosphates need to be present for this to work properly. Therefore, it is not needed and not commonly recommended but some people continue to run phosphate reactors concurrently."

 

[meherbas]

Gfo?

 

[Lenny718]

Gfo?

Granular Ferric Oxide.

 

[DrHarryLopez]

Granular Ferric Oxide.

Its used in a phosban reactor for phosphate removal

 

[prattreef]

I read that a GFO is not really needed and many considers it redundant. I'm not going to buy one. Actually here is the quote from

[SIZE=+1]Vodka Dosing...Distilled![/SIZE]
A Powerful Method for the Reduction of
Nitrates and Phosphates within the Reef Aquaria
by Nathaniel A. Walton (Genetics) and Matt Bjornson (Stony_Corals)​

"Essentially, by carbon source additions, the same net result is being achieved. It may even be counterproductive to run GFO while dosing an organic carbon source as both nitrate and phosphates need to be present for this to work properly. Therefore, it is not needed and not commonly recommended but some people continue to run phosphate reactors concurrently."

I'm not saying they are right or wrong, but who are these guys and why should we take their word for it? Seems like they are just regurgitating anecdotal experience from RC threads and the references at the end are just links to threads. They may very well have some actual expertise/ training that enables them to evaluate this stuff beyond the average hobbyist, but without any bio info I find it impossible to put too much stock into any husbandry recommendations.

 

[anthony27]

I'm not saying they are right or wrong, but who are these guys and why should we take their word for it? Seems like they are just regurgitating anecdotal experience from RC threads and the references at the end are just links to threads. They may very well have some actual expertise/ training that enables them to evaluate this stuff beyond the average hobbyist, but without any bio info I find it impossible to put too much stock into any husbandry recommendations.



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it is a sorce of carbon dosing, I went to the lira meeting and a man was talking about dosing vodka and neo zeo there is alotof talk about it. I do agree who are these ppl and should we trust them. It is better to be test and then proven fact.

 

[DrHarryLopez]

I'm not saying they are right or wrong, but who are these guys and why should we take their word for it? Seems like they are just regurgitating anecdotal experience from RC threads and the references at the end are just links to threads. They may very well have some actual expertise/ training that enables them to evaluate this stuff beyond the average hobbyist, but without any bio info I find it impossible to put too much stock into any husbandry recommendations.

As scientists, one must always question articles stating a claim or conclusion, as well as their research and resources. The above referenced article states that it was developed from the compilation of threads from RC.
It describes the potential benefits, risks, alternatives, and dosing strategies. Right now, it appears to be the first article written on the subject matter.
In my opinion, it is a well researched article. The empirical data generated from many marine hobbyist results are well within scientific acceptability.

 

[prattreef]

Certainly not the only article on vodka dosing. And to be clear, I have no issue with anecdotal hobbyist accounts as useful and worthy of discussion. My issue is more with the publication not providing author credentials to aid in evaluating the credibility of what is being said. To me an article by Joe Blow carries far less weigh than one by an author with a track record or history or expertise--not that experts can't be wrong-- or that these guys in question aren't knowledgeable. It is just that I have little way of knowing one way or the other.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-10/eb/index.php

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/eb/feature/index.php

 

[DrHarryLopez]

Certainly not the only article on vodka dosing. And to be clear, I have no issue with anecdotal hobbyist accounts as useful and worthy of discussion. My issue is more with the publication not providing author credentials to aid in evaluating the credibility of what is being said. To me an article by Joe Blow carries far less weigh than one by an author with a track record or history or expertise--not that experts can't be wrong-- or that these guys in question aren't knowledgeable. It is just that I have little way of knowing one way or the other.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-10/eb/index.php

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/eb/feature/index.php

Point acknowledged.

 

[drjayroc413]

how much vodka do i pour in a 90g with no coral in it

 

[DrHarryLopez]

how much vodka do i pour in a 90g with no coral in it

What is yourt phosphate levels? Do you ck?
do u have a prob with your phosphates?