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spacenyc

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just got a great deal on a fully stocked RED SEA MAX 34 gallon, has simple corals, mushrooms, colts, kenya trees, bubbletip. can set it up in my climate controlled basement, but no one will see it. what is the highest room temp this summer they can handle, i have fans but no ac in my living room. dont want to buy a chiller, what is the danger point. have never had a problem with fish only tanks in the same room. if i need a chiller what price or size or any other tips lmk thanks in advance steve
 

Chris Jury

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To 82 F is good. Around 84 F is approaching the upper limit for most corals. Higher than ~84 F for long periods can be detrimental/deadly to many. Some corals can and do tolerate higher temps in nature, but certainly not all, and there's no reason to push it. I'd try to keep the average temp ~80-82 F with a max not higher than 84 F. You should be able to achieve that with evaporative cooling.
 

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Mushrooms,Colt Corals,Kenya trees and Bubble tip anemones are not simple coral at all ,very complex animals if you ask me.They are soft coral and are more sensitive to high temperatures around 84-88f .Oxygen should be about 6.90 mg/L if temp. is on the high side.The Kenya tree is the hardiest on your list.
 

dubs

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84 water temp and then i would start to worry but i would not let it get to that some of the animal u listed dont like that high water temp even tho they softies
 

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For me, what I did years ago, was watch how the corals reacted. For me, I found the highest consistent temperature that my tank goes before it does not do well is 83 degrees. In the winter, my tank is set to 78 to 79 degrees for heating and the summer is set for 81 to 83 degrees. Any higher, and I can tell by observing corals and fish, that they do not like it.

PS. Another important aspect is the range of temperature. It is recommended that the temperature in a reef tank, does not vary more than 4 degrees in one day. Obviously, the more consistent the temperature the better.
 

TonyHNY

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Mine creeps up the temp during the day.. Heat transfers from hot to cold. So if you room goes beyond 85 degrees, it will be difficult to get it below 80 unless you hit the fan on top of the tank water and hope that the evaporation would cool it down a bit. Otherwise your basement is a better way to go.
between a chiller and an A/C, i rather have an A/C and set it to 75 degrees. That's what I've been doing so far...
 

Lenny718

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For me, what I did years ago, was watch how the corals reacted. For me, I found the highest consistent temperature that my tank goes before it does not do well is 83 degrees. In the winter, my tank is set to 78 to 79 degrees for heating and the summer is set for 81 to 83 degrees. Any higher, and I can tell by observing corals and fish, that they do not like it.

PS. Another important aspect is the range of temperature. It is recommended that the temperature in a reef tank, does not vary more than 4 degrees in one day. Obviously, the more consistent the temperature the better.
What Larry said! :shhh:

:givebeer:
 

Master Shake

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the absolute highest you want any tank is 85 and that is pushing it to the max, i would not recomend going anywhere above 80, 81. 77-78 is perfect, if you are trying to grow corals out keep the water a little warmer around 80 because they will grow faster with warmer water
 

Wes

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not sure about max temp for corals, but my quarantine tank runs hot out in the garage at around 87. No issues w/ the fish so far.
 

twelvejewelz

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For the past week my tank has been a stable 86F . The corals , fish and inverts are doing great. In the summer i run my tank at 80-82 and in the winter it stays at 78.But this week i had no AC and i didnt put a fan on the tank. Most coral reefs are around 80 to 89 in the wild of course the deeper you go the cooler the temp. I wouldnt let my tank hit 90 ever though. You can lower your temp with a fan usually about 2-4 degrees .
 

seldin

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"Most coral reefs are around 80 to 89 in the wild of course the deeper you go the cooler the temp. I wouldnt let my tank hit 90 ever though."

I read this on the Web also. However, in real life, when I tried higher temperatures, I personally saw stress on my corals and fish. No doubt about it. That's why, for my specific situation ( the corals and fish that I have ), I came up with my personal rule of temperatures staying at 81 to 83 degrees in Summer.

The concept is to save money on A/C, I wanted to figure out, the maximum heat temperature allowed, so my corals stay not stressed and are happy. That temperature from my observations is 81 to 83 degrees.

So as I am not saying my rule is the perfect rule for you, observation, can help Reefers decide on what is the highest temperature that their reef should be maintained at.

In addition, since this is a range, as we know, in emergencies, temperatures can go higher and while corals may not like it, they can recover if the temperature does not go too much hotter in a specific range of time.

The concept for me, is stability. Not having water temperature change much in any given day and also keeping at a desired specific temperature.

PS. Not sure this is true or not. However, with higher temperatures, since I do notice corals and fish stressed, I would think have a strong water flow is better all around. Not sure this is accurate, just my thoughts.
 
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Chris Jury

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I've written an article about temperature for the upcoming Reefs Magazine (here) that you guys may be interested in. It might be worth a read (I hope, at least ;) ).

Chris
 

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