SPS Bacterial Infections

[TOTAL AQUARIUMS]

Because our tanks have taken the corals out of their natural environemnt and way from the cues that come with it - tide, salinity changes, temperature cycles, nutrient fluctuations, and especially lunar cycle. Thats why, for example, you often hear of captive spawnings happen after a large water change or a change in lighting schedule.

I was just explaining your information about captive spawning as per the circumstances you described and offering evidence of what I was saying about external stimuli in regards to the moon. Which you stated already had nothing to do with our corals once they are removed from the ocean.

Should start a new thread or something since we have deviated off topic here lol.

 

[NYreefNoob]

ok so what do you guys consider low flow ? and i understand the reason you guys feel this on flow, but i know one tank that i wouldnt consider low flow at all and had the problem, might not be the same problem but from discussion on here other's dont seem to be effected as quickly. so say on my 60g cube 2x2x2 with 2 tunze 6025's one around 1100 gph the other a wider flow but only around 800 gph and around 400 gph on return, would love to have one of the piece of sps sent to be evaluated so maybe we all could have a better understanding or reason, my reall only opposing thought on the flow is because there are people with what i think is low flow sps tanks and other's with high flow that doesnt really get flow all around the tank

 

[Josh]

Josh does the death start from the base up?

There is some recession at the base, but what I am seeing a lot of is tissue die off in the middle of the branches.

 

[prattreef]

You are looking for a single answer here and there just isn't one. Corals crap out for all kinds of reasons and many of them we have no way of identifying. Low flow is a relative term and really in the sense that I am talking about has little to do with total turnover with in a system and more to do with certain areas having dead spots or losing circulation as the result of coral growth. I have seen Josh's system recently ( and this is the system I am talking about) and I think it has grown to the point where certain areas are not getting enough flow. These are the areas that seem to have most of the affected corals.

Are there bacterial and other pathogenic plagues that hit peoples tanks? Absolutely. Are they all caused by flow issues? Certainly not. But as one of the more easily controlled parameters at our disposal , it is a place I look 1st to see if the problem can be arrested before resorting to more drastic means. Sometimes it can, sometimes it can't. There are no magic bullets here.

 

[Josh]

Generally agreed with Randy above: I'd take a look at water flow.

I have a second Vortech ordered and it may arrive today. That will let me run them both on lower speeds so the noise isn't an issue.

 

[prattreef]

I have a second Vortech ordered and it may arrive today. That will let me run them both on lower speeds so the noise isn't an issue.

Cool.

 

[jejton]

I think another problem with any discussion like this is that we are diagnosing a coral disease based solely on symptoms. Just like humans can get fever and chills from many different types of things - different infections, medications, dietary insufficiencies or toxicities - so can corals ( or any organism ). So even though we might think that all these cases are the same disease ( and even if they are, many factors, as Prattreef said, can cause it together or separately ) but in reality it might different things causing similar symptoms.

 

[TOTAL AQUARIUMS]

I agree fully, except that we don't have the battery of tests available at a regular hospital or doctors office for our tanks. All we have to go on 90% of the time is symptoms. Which is where experience and sometimes threads like this can help a lot.

 

[sjsoto]

wow this sure is a long thread, but worth reading...anyone suffering from problem recovered?, if yes ... what was done... "josh" has it been better since you got vortech?