stn/rtn

[tomtoothdoc]

keep your hands out of the tank
stop buy up all the coral, and leave some for me

look who's talking....dr. coral hoarder.....lol.

 

[tomtoothdoc]

shoot.... i'm still dumbfounded!!!!!!:banghead: the hawkins echinata frag i got from the fall swap just rtn'd. i was fine last night..... wtf!!!!!:irked:
the echinata came from randy's tank....i believe he had it for a long time....so it's not wild.

my parameters are

alk 9
calcium 480
mag. 1380
nitrate 14
phos. 0.00
salinity 1.025
temp 79
ph 8.05

can't do water change tonight....will do it tomorrow night. i'm putting chemipure in tomorrow in case there are contaminants in the water as batt600 had suggested.(he actually suggested carbon but i find carbon to be a pita. i had been substituting it with chemipure for years)

 

[flipit13]

Hey Tom
After reading the thread again carbon would be a good addition but here is another thing to possibly check. Did your alk have any swings lately?

From my own experience having a mix reef sps and lps. Sps like lower alk in the mid 7 range and lps always do better in the upper range of 8-9. I lost quite a bit sps when I started trying to hit higher ranges and took longer for the survivors to acclimate to it. Now I just keep it in the mid 8's and all looks great again.

Rick

 

[OzoneParkGuy]

Why are your trates so high?

 

[tomtoothdoc]

Hey Tom
After reading the thread again carbon would be a good addition but here is another thing to possibly check. Did your alk have any swings lately?

From my own experience having a mix reef sps and lps. Sps like lower alk in the mid 7 range and lps always do better in the upper range of 8-9. I lost quite a bit sps when I started trying to hit higher ranges and took longer for the survivors to acclimate to it. Now I just keep it in the mid 8's and all looks great again.

Rick

the alk had always been in the 8-9 range, if you call an 8 to a 9 a swing, then i supposed i did. i re-checked the alk and cal with salifert and it's not really significantly different.
alk api 9 salifert 9.3
cal api 480 salifert 470

didn't know that lower alk is better for sps. i had always tried to keep the alk as close to 9 as practical. boy you learn something new every day. i will keep that in mind about mid 8's.
right now i'm trying to do one thing at a time which is introducing back the chemi pure (in place of carbon) which had been off line for at least 3-4 months???

thanks rick.

 

[tomtoothdoc]

Why are your trates so high?

i got lots of fish and they are all fat....i like my fish like i like my women.....easy to chase down.....lol. ('cause my wife is so hard to track down....her schedule is even busier than mine....lol).

the trates been stuck at the 12-16 range forever.....i suppose if i don't feed the fish (which is once a day), then that might be lower. i never had any issue with trates being in that range for years......so i live with it.

 

[DrHarryLopez]

Always check to see if something fell into the main display, Refug, Sump. Also ck magnets that may have opened up and leaching corrosive, reactive and toxic material. Do you have an ORP meter? Just a thought.
Harry

 

[tomtoothdoc]

Always check to see if something fell into the main display, Refug, Sump. Also ck magnets that may have opened up and leaching corrosive, reactive and toxic material. Do you have an ORP meter? Just a thought.
Harry

good idea. i don't see anything obvious but i'll double check.....

no i don't have an orp meter......what would the measurement show?

 

[JARRETT SHARK]

Tom i feel your pain, maybe light or bulbs to strong
MAYBE TRY TO REDUCE THE LED TIME COULD BE BURNING THEM

 

[Mattl22]

Check to make sure nothing is rusting in your tank I remove my protein skimmer to clean it for first time in 8 months and found that my mag drive pumps casing had been cracked and was rusting very heavily around the crack
I also heard of something similar happening to a guy I sold my hob protein skimmer too his seal on the wet side of his power heads opened over time and exposed things that rusted he slowly lost all his sps didn't find the problem till it was 2 late

 

[Mattl22]

4 months

 

[tomtoothdoc]

Tom i feel your pain, maybe light or bulbs to strong
MAYBE TRY TO REDUCE THE LED TIME COULD BE BURNING THEM

i suppose it could be a series of events.....changing bulbs, bio pellets making the water clearer thus allowing more light penetration and shocking/burning them?

 

[tomtoothdoc]

Check to make sure nothing is rusting in your tank I remove my protein skimmer to clean it for first time in 8 months and found that my mag drive pumps casing had been cracked and was rusting very heavily around the crack
I also heard of something similar happening to a guy I sold my hob protein skimmer too his seal on the wet side of his power heads opened over time and exposed things that rusted he slowly lost all his sps didn't find the problem till it was 2 late

i'll check the two koralia in the display...they are the only ones that i haven't cleaned and inspected.
i'll also have to check all the pumps in the sump. next water change, i'm going to shut everything down take all of them out for maintenance.

 

[DrHarryLopez]

Also ck for UFO's lol

 

[JARRETT SHARK]

Also ck for UFO's lol

Harry remember we saw 2 on his lawn when we visited Tom

 

[NYreefNoob]

rust = gfo,
what salt are you using ? reason i ask because 4 of us went through this issue and it was a bad batch of salt, all levels seemed good for what we could test, cal, alk, and mag
alk should be 8-10
if it was from over light then it would start at the tips, which is usually how it happens with alk burn also
ulns really would cause a fade in colors before rtn

 

[Mattl22]

Rust is the same as gfo??
Yes definitely check for UFOs !! Lol
(just trying to help)


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[tomtoothdoc]

rust = gfo,
what salt are you using ? reason i ask because 4 of us went through this issue and it was a bad batch of salt, all levels seemed good for what we could test, cal, alk, and mag
alk should be 8-10
if it was from over light then it would start at the tips, which is usually how it happens with alk burn also
ulns really would cause a fade in colors before rtn

I switched to esv over 7 months ago???? Used reef crystal for more than 4 yrs prior. This wasn't a newly opened box.

The rtn started from the base/inner branches.

There were some fading with the first colony but the two that followed I didn't even see what had happened. They were fine when I went to bed, the next day they were mostly if not completely white!!!

The only good news right now is that there hasn't been any more lost since the Hawkin's echinata from randy.

One other odd thing I noticed, I saw the blennies(starry, red spotted, eyelash, and black), especially the black blennie, nipping/eating something off the acro more often recently. Could they be eating off some slime or there are not enough algae in the tank for them to eat? I don't have any algae in the main tank at all. And I have been feeding less lately....still once a day but less portion.