i wasnt impressed with the bpc 3 either, didnt run it long term either though, and there is alot of better skimmers for the money then that one, their customer service sux, comparing that skimmer to a turbo float isnt a comparison, also look at the amount of wattage used to drive one of those compared to any needle wheel skimmer, best skimmer out for the money is the vertex, ive owned 15 or so skimmers and out of all of them euroreef, asm, bermuda, etss, dax, and few other the vertex was best built and worked like a xharm, what size tank is it going on and do you need a external or internal skimmer ? in reality id i was going with a down draft style id take the etss sump buddy 40 or 60 over the bermuda, had both and loved them other then the noise of the down draft, the 60 was most powerful skimmer ive had and very little space required