Is this the start of Ick???????
- Thread starter topmav1
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Looks like the start of it, im trying to battle it now and boy does it suck. try feeding garlic and greens to try to help fight it. or might have to qt him good luck either way its a pain in the ass
johnny roastbeef
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I'm not sure but all those needles look painful.
OzoneParkGuy
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Appears to be my friend, Keep a real close eye if more develop.. Also look for signs of scratching on the rocks. Invest in a cleaner shrimp, Garlic Extreme, Cleaner Wrasse, raise the temp or you may want to QT, or try a FW dip. Which is 1.10 Specific Gravity for 15 minutes and have the temp the same as the DT.
The PH MUST match to do a dip.
A FW dip will not get rid of encapsulated cysts.
I also would not raise the temp in the tank as in Marine Ich it does little to shorten the life cycle of Ich (like it would do in FW Ich). More heat in the water lessens the amount of available oxygen, which in this case is a truly bad idea.
How many fish are in the tank, do you see these on any of the others?
Yes, I do believe it can come in on a coral.
If you have it in one fish, it is likely that the others will get it. All should be treated in a QT if you want to eliminate it from your tank.
fallenlordz
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Best to get a cleaner shrimp (hope it help cleans it)
Also keep that tang nice and feed with garlic.
It should past - if he is nice and strong. :fish:
Also keep that tang nice and feed with garlic.
It should past - if he is nice and strong. :fish:
Ok I'll get the cleaner tomorrow. Still has a big appetite so ... hope fully will help. Just don't want my whole tank getting it!
OzoneParkGuy
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Yes ph must match, thank you Kathy for posting that. Not saying to raise temps to an undesireable level now as to bake them. 1-2 degrees higher. There will still be plenty of oxygen as long as he has his PS running and his SW aggitated to release the exchange. The FW dip is called hyposalinty or ost and will help. Best used in a QT tank for this purpose. If you have it on 1, chances are it might spread to others. Google marine ich to read more.
FW dip helps a lot and copper in a QT will pretty much guarantee that fish doesnt have it anymore.. clowns imo are prone to ick so be careful w. your onyxes keep an eye on them as ive had almost all of my clowns perish due to ick. (i was noob at the time and never really treated it or knew it was ick) just seems there prone to it. i FW dip my fish if i even suspect 1 tiny spot on the for about 10-15 mins, no salt in water at all and it seems to do the trick.
I have that, i used it with a combination of things, just make sure you have your skimmer running, and when u do, it bubbles like a mofo, i came home to a few wet floors after an overflow trying to treat a few things with that, be careful.
AFAIK a freshwater dip will only eliminate parasites that haven't yet burrowed into the skin of the fish, or kill the 'salt' stage. It won't, however, do much to anything that's already burrowed into the fish but hasn't emerged yet; the fish's own circulatory system and internal salt content protects the parasite at that point. The reason hyposalinity treatment works is because it kills the free-swimming stage; you wait for all of the parasites actually -in- the fish to mature, go free-swimming, and then die; the fish doesn't get reinfected and eventually the illness 'runs the course'.
How does the tang look today - any more spots?
IMO there is no point in dipping as you won't get rid of all of the ich by doing so. Whatever cysts have already worked their way off of the fish are now on the substrate hatching and will be looking to reinfect the fish anyway.
IMO there is no point in dipping as you won't get rid of all of the ich by doing so. Whatever cysts have already worked their way off of the fish are now on the substrate hatching and will be looking to reinfect the fish anyway.
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Don't do a fresh water dip. It doesn't work on ich, even the ich that you can see on the fish body isn't affective. In the end it's best to treat either with Copper or hyposalinty.
If you going to do hyposalinty it must be at 1.007-1.009 anything above doesn't work. Also you need to do it for 2 weeks after the last ich spore falls off the fish body. It's best to do it for 4 weeks, as then you'll make sure the ich is dead. Also hyposalinty only works on ich, so if it's not ich it will not do the job.
As for Cleaner Shrimp, they probably do more harm to the fish then help.
And yes you can bring ich into your tank by adding corals, LS or LR. This happens a lot more then people realize. It's always a good idea to rinse off you corals and LR before you place them into your tank. Using some type of coral treatment is a good idea too.
If you going to do hyposalinty it must be at 1.007-1.009 anything above doesn't work. Also you need to do it for 2 weeks after the last ich spore falls off the fish body. It's best to do it for 4 weeks, as then you'll make sure the ich is dead. Also hyposalinty only works on ich, so if it's not ich it will not do the job.
As for Cleaner Shrimp, they probably do more harm to the fish then help.
And yes you can bring ich into your tank by adding corals, LS or LR. This happens a lot more then people realize. It's always a good idea to rinse off you corals and LR before you place them into your tank. Using some type of coral treatment is a good idea too.
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