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naesco

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I have read a number of post in the last few days and am shocked by the attitude of many industry posters.

Don't you understand that unless you present immediate proposals of industry reeform that deals with issue like cyanide. CDT and the USL, your industry and my hobby, as we know it, if finished. :cry:
 
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I just looked out the window...we're not burning over here.

Peace,

Chip
 

naesco

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logicalreef":37fd2qjn said:
Dont worry so much Wayne, not good for your health at all :)

You are right but I do.
Unfortuneately those that have the greatest to lose, those that depend on the industry to put bread and butter on their plates, don't.
Go figure!
 

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Guys,
Wayne.
Theres a difference between your hero George Bush saying hes for world peace and ACTING in the interest of it.
Can you follow me?
Good...now...consider that there may be a difference in the empty rhetoric of reform of this trade and ACTING in the interest of it.
This beginners stuff needs at some point to advance to action and real life field work to convert the fisherman that feed this trade. Thats where we have had this epic parting of ways.
A Filipino fisherman once told me; "We didn't listen to what you said...we watched what you did."
Steve
 
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cortez marine":3kuotm3o said:
A Filipino fisherman once told me; "We didn't listen to what you said...we watched what you did."

As Naesco once very wisely stated, "INDUSTRY, Nero fiddles while Rome burns!"


Sincerely,
A Hobbyist
 
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Just one question, what makes you think Industry is fiddling, because of what is posted on this forum? Gimme a brake, this forum is not even close to representing the Industry in anyway. If by fiddling, you mean posting on this forum (which a very few Industry types do), well your right, this forum is just for fiddling, nothing will ever really come outs this forum that will actually change how things are done in the field.
 

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GreshamH":16wt4a4j said:
Just one question, what makes you think Industry is fiddling, because of what is posted on this forum? Gimme a brake, this forum is not even close to representing the Industry in anyway. If by fiddling, you mean posting on this forum (which a very few Industry types do), well your right, this forum is just for fiddling, nothing will ever really come outs this forum that will actually change how things are done in the field.

As their industry burns around them, industry posters talk about the folowing:

MAC
Others damage the reef too (like pollution)
the bills semantics instead of the bill's intent
your posts generally
personal attacks.

There has not been one post by industry acknowledging that there is a problem AND suggesting ways for industry to reeform

Don't you get it. If the reeform minded industry posters on this board don't get off their ass and convince the LA thugs that the party is over well industry is finished and the hobby as we know it is in for a major shock.
You cannot fight the Bill but you can remove the cancer that caused the Government to take this step.
 
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There has not been one post by industry acknowledging that there is a problem AND suggesting ways for industry to reeform

I suggest you rethink that statement.
 

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naesco":334f779l said:
If the reeform minded industry posters on this board don't get off their ass and convince the LA thugs that the party is over well industry is finished and the hobby as we know it is in for a major shock.
Don't forget about the NYC/NJ and Florida thugs! LA aren't the only ones, some of the real big boys are on the East coast.

I'm glad I'm no longer in LA. :wink:
 

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naesco":1wwsvdvi said:
You cannot fight the Bill...
Sounds like you need to sing this song a few more times:


}} {Woof! You sure gotta climb a lotta steps to get to this Capitol
}} Building here in Washington! But I wonder who that sad little
}} scrap of paper is?}

I'm just a bill,
Yes, I'm only a bill,
And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill.
Well, it's a long, long journey
To the capital city,
It's a long, long wait
While I'm sitting in committee,
But I know I'll be a law someday...
At least I hope and pray that I will,
But today I'm still just a bill.

}} {Gee, bill, you certainly have a lot of patience and courage!}
{Well I got *this* far. When I started, I wasn't even a *bill* - I
was just an idea. Some folks back home decided they wanted a law
passed, so they called their local congressman and he said "You're right,
there ought to be a law." Then he sat down and wrote me out and
introduced me to Congress, and I became a bill. And I'll remain a
bill until they decide to make me a law.}

I'm just a bill,
Yes I'm only a bill,
And I got as far as Capitol Hill.
Well now I'm stuck in committee
And I sit here and wait
While a few key congressmen
Discuss and debate
Whether they should
Let me be a law...
Oh how I hope and pray that they will,
But today I am still just a bill.

}} {Listen to those congressmen arguing! Is all that discussion and
}} debate about you?}
{Yes. I'm one of the lucky ones. Most bills never even get this far.
I hope they decide to report on me favourably, otherwise I may die.}
}} {"Die?"}
{Yeah: die in committee. Oooh! But it looks like I'm gonna live.
Now I go to the House of Representatives and they vote on me.}
}} {If they vote "yes", what happens?}
{Then I go to the Senate and the whole thing starts all over again.}
}} {Oh no!}
{Oh yes!}

I'm just a bill,
Yes I'm only a bill,
And if they vote for me on Capitol Hill,
Well then I'm off to the White House
Where I'll wait in a line
With a lot of other bills
For the President to sign.
And if he signs me then I'll be a law...
Oh, how I hope and pray that he will,
But today I am still just a bill.

}} {You mean even if the whole Congress says you should be a law, the
}} President can still say no?}
{Yes, that's called a "veto". If the President vetoes me, I have to
go back to Congress, and they vote on me again, and by that time
it's...}
}} {By that time, it's very unlikely that you'll *become* a law! It's
}} not easy to become a law, is it?}

No! But how I hope and I pray that I will,
But today I am still just a bill!

}} {He signed you, bill! Now you're a law!}
{Oh yes!}
 

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MaryHM":2uxeuu0r said:
You cannot fight the Bill

Really? Why not?

The only way is as posted in your question posed to Sci-Guy.

Just what do you think the chances are that a reeform leader will emerge?
That industry including the LA and East Coast boys will gather together and seriously adopt a CDT, USL and other reeform proposals?
 

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LOL. That is not the only way, silly. You see everything so black and white. But this industry, our government, and the world in general exists in varying shades of gray.
 

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MaryHM":oispbfqj said:
LOL. That is not the only way, silly. You see everything so black and white. But this industry, our government, and the world in general exists in varying shades of gray.

But Mary I said the same thing 18 months ago and you posted just like you have know.

But look where we are Mary. We have a formal bill presented.

It doen't seem silly to me. It seems your industry is in a big pile of poo poo.
 

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