Gem Tangs???

[fishinchick]

Hey, I've been told a few retail outfits just picked up Gem Tangs from a wholesaler in L.A.

I've been up there several times this last week and I havent seen them.

I heard that they may have been less than legally imported (OMIGOSH not in THIS industry).

If they are legal, I'd love to hear where they are comming from and who's got them. Hopefully someone ethical got them here legally.

 

[jetaero]

I heard the same thing! Possibly they're just extra luggage?

 

[Fish_dave]

I think that two places on 104th have had them recently. The price may make you think that they were smuggled in but I would think that they are legal. There is no reason to not bring them in legally, no restrictions that I am aware of. Generally they come from Maritius and the supplier there told me two months ago that he would be back to shipping soon. These may have come in direct or may have come in from Europe. They are occasionally offered from Hong Kong for a much more reasonable price. Any of those three sources should come in Legally. Why smuggle something that is legal.

Dave

 

[Anonymous]

I heard they're sold in Germany for $250.

What's with the $2-4k price tag here in the US? This is on the ones that supposedly came in.

"The Phantom Tangs"

I'll fly to Germany round trip to pick up one for $250.

Peace,

Chip

 

[fishinchick]

I was told they sold for $1500 at the wholesale level.

I realize these guys are rare and stuff but please.

Maybe they were accidentally imported as Scopas tangs and they didnt know what they had :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

The price we were quoted was around that as well. No idea if they were legally brought in or not, didn't bother to ask... not at that price anyways. I've seen them online for 4k though. yikes.

 

[Anonymous]

I was told they sold for $1500 at the wholesale level.

I realize these guys are rare and stuff but please.

Maybe they were accidentally imported as Scopas tangs and they didnt know what they had :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Fish_dave]

The word I heard today was that they came in from Japan. That would help explain the 1,500.00 wholesale price.

If people are happy to pay 1,500.00 then I guess it makes sense to bring them in from Japan.

Dave

 

[Anonymous]

If they can bring in Gem Tangs from Japan, then why not acanthastrea lordhowensis from there?

That doesn't make any sense...

Peace,

Chip

 

[Fish_dave]

Acanthastrea would require a cites permit. Gem tangs are not cites app. II animals thus would need no cites permit to export or import. Big difference.

Dave

 

[dizzy]

I want one.

 

[Anonymous]

Acanthastrea would require a cites permit. Gem tangs are not cites app. II animals thus would need no cites permit to export or import. Big difference.

Dave

That's my point, tho. Gem tangs are far less l plentiful over there than lords. So why make it illegal to export them? What are they protecting if they're so plentiful? If the entire reef over there is protected, then how do the gem tangs get out?

I hope I'm being clear enough...I just don't get it.

Peace,

Chip

 

[Anonymous]

Chip, I'm sure where Gems come from, they out number Lords by leaps and bounds. Besides, a fish can make a quicker come back IMO, then a encrusting photosynthetic coral can.

 

[Anonymous]

I need to get a frag of the Lords......I saw on a site 10 polyp/$900.00 or 4.5 polyp/$500.00. 8O

That is definately the money maker.

 

[WayneSallee]

I need to get a frag of the Lords......I saw on a site 10 polyp/$900.00 or 4.5 polyp/$500.00. 8O

That is definately the money maker.

You have to look at two things.

1) how fast does that species grow.

2) how much will the price have dropped by the time you have a bunch of frags ready to sell.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets
[email protected]

 

[Anonymous]

cool, thanks for that piece of info.

 

[Anonymous]

Chip, I'm sure where Gems come from, they out number Lords by leaps and bounds. Besides, a fish can make a quicker come back IMO, then a encrusting photosynthetic coral can.

Okay, so I'll counter with...if Gems are so common, then why the $1,500 wholesale price tag?

Y'all annoyed yet?

Peace,

Chip

 

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a fish that likely be beaten to death by my $20 atlantic blue tang within a week of being in my tank. If the atlantic blue didn't get him, I'll bet the sailfin would.

They are purdy though.

Louey

 

[Anonymous]

1) how fast does that species grow.

Pretty quickly when you feed them.

2) how much will the price have dropped by the time you have a bunch of frags ready to sell.

Price of Japanese lords 3 years ago = $50-100/polyp

Price of Japanese lords 3 minutes ago = $50-100/polyp

Peace,

Chip

 

[Anonymous]

They have some on ebay right now 45polyps for $50.00. Looked exactly like the one I googled.

UPDATE** up to about $100.00 w/2days to go.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-RED-EYE-Acanth ... dZViewItem