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juke

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I have recently completed my Business Plan for a Coral Greenhouse Farm. I am now seeking out funding and will shortly be building the facility on my 3 acres in Southern California.

My original plan was to grow and deliver to the Wholesalers on 104th in LA. I believe that there are a lot of opportunities to deal directly with the wholesaler. One of my fears was not knowing if I could keep up with the demand once relationships were established.

Another big thing, an I need to revise my Business Plan accordingly, is the price that I can charge for my stock. I may have a bit of an advantage, because I would imagine that I can gain more cost per piece since I will deliver stock and the high cost of shipping will not be an issue. Any thoughts in this are would be superior...

This information has been invaluable! It is great to hear ideas and thoughts from all sides of the Hobby/Industry.

Josh
 

sdcfish

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Josh,

I would start small and sell for the highest dollar...then slowly expand and see if you can grow enough inventory for higher volume sales.

Good luck!

Eric

PS...Did you mean you ARE seeking funding? I wasn't sure for your post.
 

juke

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Eric,

I agree completely! My plan is to start small and after 3 years expand. I will be starting with the, as it has been put in this post, "bread-n-butter" soft corals.

And yes, I am currently seeking out funding for this venture!

Juke
 

treeman

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The biggest problem I have had is getting good, healthy broodstock. Especially, in a large enough quantity or size.

Matt
 

alti1

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Hi Everyone,
Great thread.

My farm has been running for about 3 years now. Im in the process of building a new facility as we speak.

I love seeing so many people all Gung Ho about coral farming, but I also like to remind people that it is no easy venture. Unless you are going to be growing a few easy to raise corals in your basement to sell locally, get ready for years of hard work, spending tons of money and very little to no real income for at least 2-3 years. It sounds really easy when you write the business plan down, but like any other business, there are a ton of other factors that you have never thought about.

MAtts remark about getting suppliers for broodstock is a huge issue. Most people dont realize how large a broodstock you actually need to carry to maintain a sustainable harvest. Try getting 1000-2000 pcs of xenia. You will never find a supplier. Even if you do, they will not be from the same place and you risk inconsistancy, disease and may have some allelopathy issues. The only real way to do it is to start with one colony and grow it out. I started with about 10 heads and now have close to 1500. It took me 2 years(slower than usual since I had to sell alot along the way), but now I have the broodstock I need. The same really goes for the rest of my brood.

Pests and plagues are another huge issue(another reason to stay with softies). I lost my first years broodstock of acropora's to acro eating flatworms. Belive me when I say that none of the cures listed on the net actually work. When you have 2000-3000 frags strew about your system it is physically impossible to get every single pest once they are in there. Starting off with a few clean colonies is the only way to go. There really cant be a coral farm with pest issues. Anyone selling stony frags with red bugs, acro flatworms or monti eating nudibranches is not farming them. Your frags will never grow to a profitable level with those pests in your tanks. I think alot of these so called farmers from the pacific are giving farm raised frags a bad name. A friend of mine is putting one of these facilities up right now. All he is going to do is get a large colony from the wild, break it into 2"-3" frags, put it back in the ocean to grow a bit and sell them after they have encrusted. I hope importers and wholesalers will realize this fact one day. I leave every stony coral that come into my posession in QT for at least 3-4 months under heavy scrutiny before I even contemplate letting it go into my stony systems.

That was a long rant, especially when it comes to sps corals. I should have started by saying " dont waste your time trying to grow SPS species!". Unless you are going to sell retail, your time and overhead will cost you more in the end.

Someone brought up the point about actual wholesale prices. If you are interested in growing coral as your only source of income you are most likely going to eventually find yourself selling to the wholesalers. Remember that they have to make money too. The final sale prices of the corals you grow will most likely be much lower than you expected. A wholesaler who brings in big colonies of zoanthids for under $20 is not going to pay you $10 for a 2" frag that takes you 6 months to grow. Finding that out after you have spent thaousand of dollars and months if not years of your time is no picnic.

A huge factor that is rarely discussed, but is enormously important in determining profitablility is ratio of broodstock to production. A simple X ammount fo this broodstock produces Y ammount of frags that need to be grown out for Z ammount of time. Without that info there really is no basis to figure out your business plan. You can write down that you will build a greenhouse with this many corals and that many gallons, but how do you know that it will produce the ammount of corals you think it will?

Its taken me a long time to figure out that my xenia regenerates after being cut in 30 days, that my 50 colony broodstock of kenya tree only give me 50-100 frags per month and that I need 600 mother colonies and 200 sq feet of growing area to produce 500-800 frags of zoanthids per month. This is the kind of info we really need and this is why I strongly recommend that everyone interested in coral farming start small and works their way up.
 

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Oops, forgot to add my recommended corals to the list :)

Dont forget the shrooms. I know they are cheap and no one ever seems to wat them, but they always sell :)
 

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Mushrooms = Cheap and easy! The “rare” and pricey stuff is great for show but what’s keeps stores floating is the everyday bread and butter stuff. People love to ask for nice high-end corals but when it comes time to put cash down for it it’s a different story.
 

sdcfish

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These comments are excellent and ring of "farming". There are many factors to consider and you just never know what that big storm comes through and wipes out your crop! It's risky biz, but somewhat controllable.

We still have a huge demand for frags...especially xenia. The last supplier we picked up off this thread has provided us with a few shipments of excellent xenia...but the shipments are few and far between now.

I do think that if someone had the funding, they could purchase 1000 pieces of xenia at one time......I think I could find a source to get it....as I have seen fields of xenia on the reefs...no shortage in some areas.

Anyway...without the sofisitication of funding for these types of ventures, I find it highly unlikely that it will be nothing more than to serve the hobbyists...which in the end is a great result anyway.

Nice to see the thread take on interest....and also to see many companies see the potential in revenues for farming to their local communities.

Best regards,

Eric
 

alti1

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Xenia is definately the best crop. I have enough space allocated in the new facility to grow at least. 1000-2000 frags per month. I ran into the same problem as your other supplier and decided it was best to stop selling wholesale until I could produce enough to be consistent. You cant expect a customer to bother dealing with you when you only have a few frags here and there.

Its just a matter of time before the little growers like me have enough success to supply some of the big boys :)
 

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