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FlyTekk

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Hey im thinking of getting a 6 bulb t5 powermodule with all ati bulbs.

Is this too much for lps and softies. Only sps i have is monti caps and 2 frags i got for free of other things.

I dont want to bleach or kill any of the softies. Thanks.

My tank is a 40breeder. Think its 36x18x16high
 

MatthewScars

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Nah man, I had the 6x24" ATI sunpower and it was great for Soft/LPS. I switched to LED cause I liked the colors a lot better and the shimmer (lame, i know)

Looking back, you should seriously look at the AI LEDs if you have some cash. I wasnt going to do SPS either, but you know how it goes. I got the ATI for $500(with bulbs) and could only sell it for $250. So just think about LEDs. The ATI did SPS well, but LED are better for it IMO.
 
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FlyTekk

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The only reason im going t5 is cause they have all the colors and supposedly leds cant represent all colors with only white and blue leds. I had my own diy leds and i believe this to be true. The whites would drown the blues and anything red, pink, purple, orange wouldnt look right.

I like the intensity of leds and metalhalides. But looking for color now.

Seriously not looking o get sps. Im fine with caps.
 

MatthewScars

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I had the ATI fixture and the AI LED SOL Blue. The Sol Blue has superior colors. They have white/blue/navy bulbs.

In my ATI, I had Giessman bulbs.

3x Aquablue
2x Actinic
1x Pure Actinic

Could not remotely even compare to the LEDs.

Just saying, good luck though.
 

FlyTekk

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Lol. I think you used the same as leds. I mean, the good thing about t5's is that im gonna add a pink/purple bulb. Also run a 6500k bulb. Plus an aquablue and 3 blue+. So mix it up and get all the diff colors in there.

It loooks to me that you went just white and blue. Which is what Leds do well. Actually they do it better i agree. Add to that intensity and shimmer. Leds win hands down.

But like i said im looking to get some of the missing colors by using all of the different spectrums.

Sord of like the ecotech radion does for the LED world. But im not paying $700x2 :0)
 

CancerverO

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I had the ATI fixture and the AI LED SOL Blue. The Sol Blue has superior colors. They have white/blue/navy bulbs.

In my ATI, I had Giessman bulbs.

3x Aquablue
2x Actinic
1x Pure Actinic

Could not remotely even compare to the LEDs.

Just saying, good luck though.

I agree!

I had a 6 bulbs TEK system on a 57 tank (36x18x21) and all the corals were fine so your should be fine.. just get right combo I used to run:

front to back:

ATI blue plus
ATI superblue plus
ATI blue plus
KZ fiji purple
ATI blue plus
UVL superactinic

HTH
 

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Im a little confused cancervero. Are you saying you liked the t5's or not. It seems like you agree with your quote that t5 dont compare to led then you say your system was okay with t5's and i should be fine with right combo.

sorry.. I agree with the fact that AI sol blue can bring any color out of the corals.. reds, blues , greens.. and I like AI sol blue better than my T5s.. now T5s werent that bad either.. I like them too.. I used to run T5s and RApid LEDs DIY strip... tank look great and growth was great

with AI sol blue, I can get the T5s look that I used to have, the MH shimmer effect that I didnt have with the T5s and at night I get the fully LEDs look that makes all the corals pop. ALl of the 3 looks using one type fixture (I have 2 AI super sol ). I hope I didnt confuse you more
 

INNEED

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HUMMM AI'S BLUE IN MY OPINION DONT BRING OUT THE COLORS T5'S DO BUT THAT JUST MY OPINION AND I OWN QUITE A COLLECTION OF LEDS... THE ONLY LEDS THAT DO BRING OUT THE COLOR CLOSE TO T5'S ARE THE radion WITCH I HAVE ALSO OWNED....I WOULD STICK TO T5'S AND ADD A REEF BRIGHT STRIP FOR THE SHIMMER...BUT IF U DO CONSIDER LEDS GO WITH THE RADION'S. DOWN THE RODE U WILL END UP PAYING IF NOT THE SAME MORE FOR T5'S REPLACING BULBS AND UTILIY BILL...I REALLY DONT GET WHATS THE HYPE ABOUT AI'S BUT.... I STILL SAY GO WITH T5'S AND ATI ARE GREAT....
 

FlyTekk

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You hit it right on the dime Ineed. If ai sols with their white and 2 diff blues can get all the greens yellows purples pinks and reds.... then why is the radion so great and expensive with their red, green, uv leds on top of blues and whites? I thought the point of the radion was to finally bring does colors to leds. But when i here that Ai sols have been capable of such coloration for years now... i get confused.
 

akma

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I had the AI sol blue for about 10 months, went back to my ATI T5's and haven't looked back since. Personally for me I don't think led's are ready yet. I tried every configuration, started with low intensity etc. Just didn't like it. It did make my corals pop, but it also washed out allot of colors.
 

CancerverO

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Radion, AI , T5s, MH.. they all great lights.. you can have T5s + Reef brites, T5s + rapid leds, ATIs + powerbrites or TEK + reef brites or MH + reefbrites .. honestly all are great lights and at the end of the day is what makes you happy and what you can afford... I have seen some tanks under simple MH and T5s and they are outstanding with no need of LEDs.. while other with Radion and the tank looks ok.. a healthy tank doesnt depend on the lights only.. so keep what you have .. ATI light systems is a great light system.. couple of months ago everybody wanted those lights.. then AI appeared and now Radion.. so you got the idea ;0)
 

FlyTekk

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Problem is i need opinions because forking over $500-$1400 on lights without knowing what your gonna get or gonna like/dislike is tuff.

It seems to me that for everyone that got LEDS and love them there is someone who got leds and went back to MH or T5 or both.

Only one thing seems for sure, power compacts may rest in peace. :0)

Keep it comming guys!!!

Akma, what didnt you like from leds that ATi t5s were able to produce?
 

CancerverO

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I had the AI sol blue for about 10 months, went back to my ATI T5's and haven't looked back since. Personally for me I don't think led's are ready yet. I tried every configuration, started with low intensity etc. Just didn't like it. It did make my corals pop, but it also washed out allot of colors.

funny I might be in the same boat.. I used to love the T5s look.. then change to AI.. at the beginning I didnt like it since it was like running moonlights all the time ...lol but I think I got the right setting.. then again who knowq I might go your route and sell them and go back to T5s..

BTW .. you should change your signature ;)
 

CancerverO

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Problem is i need opinions because forking over $500-$1400 on lights without knowing what your gonna get or gonna like/dislike is tuff.

It seems to me that for everyone that got LEDS and love them there is someone who got leds and went back to MH or T5 or both.

Only one thing seems for sure, power compacts may rest in peace. :0)

Keep it comming guys!!!

Akma, what didnt you like from leds that ATi t5s were able to produce?


bro you live in maspeth. I am in ridgewood I am not that far from you.. you are more than welcome to come and check my tank out and we can play with the setting and see the different coloration..

I think INNEED is also close to us I belive.. why not ask him if you can check his tank out.. that is the best way to make a decision.. see it in person.. sorry INNEED I am throwing you under the bus :Blurp:
 

akma

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This is my personal opinion, just from my experience.
MH > T5 > LED.

The led's make the color POP, but while under LED's the colors pop it seems to wash them out as well. I tried many different combinations and different intensities. The shimmer and everything is nice, but under the AI sols the tank itself looks so dim. The led's are strong enough to bleach but just the overall look of the tank was dim. My sps didn't look that well and I lost allot of red in my corals and differetn colors.
Since I switched back to T5's, the colors have come back in quite nicely. No washed out look and I think i've had an increase in growth pretty fast.
I run currently a 4 bulb fixture and I use 3 ATI blue + and 1 purple plus. Makes everything look good. I will probably get a led strip just for that pop I like to look at once in awihle.
 

FlyTekk

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I been to ineeds house a bunch of times. We always selling each other stuff and trading. Lol. Would love to see your tank. Im from Ridgewood all my life. My fam owns the barbershop and bodega on seneca and woodbine. Im always around there getting a haircut or buying beer. :0)
 

CancerverO

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I been to ineeds house a bunch of times. We always selling each other stuff and trading. Lol. Would love to see your tank. Im from Ridgewood all my life. My fam owns the barbershop and bodega on seneca and woodbine. Im always around there getting a haircut or buying beer. :0)


lol.. I might be available saturday am if you want.. pm me friday
 

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