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excellent. Thanks X

I guess I should also ask, should I be looking to match the pumps that intake to the tank, and the return pump exiting the sump?
 

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you need to find out what the overflows are rated for, and choose a pump accordingly. you don't want a ton of flow coming back, but you don't want the sump stagnant either. i used a mag7 return on my old 75. it was ok.
 
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Ok, so I picked up the tank today. The "divider" in the back section is actually a built in sump area. I took pictures and drew a diagram of the sump section in case you cant see it clearly in the pics.
Measurements are also included.
Is it rasonable to use this built in sump? The inlet/outlet pipe you see on the left of the diagram is 1" diameter by the way.

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More pics...

This one is of the back showing the sump area:
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This shows the dividers in the sump starting from the back left side:
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This is the far right side:
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Notice in that last picture above, the top right corner is open between the tank and sump and is an overflow section I guess.

Here is the diagram. You may need to enlarge it (sorry). The depth of the sump section from the back off the tank is 9":

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Here are a few pics of the lighting included in the hood. They are a pair of Coralife 10,000K bulbs 36". Looks like the fixture has some rust. They function just fine, but I'd feel safer popping in a new fixture and bulbs in there as they don't look safe. I'd also like to put an acrylic cover between the bulbs and the tank for added safety.

(im sure you will concur by the looks of that fixture...)

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that's a pretty neat setup. i wouldn't be upset if i was given that to work with. the only issue i see with it, is that the sump doesn't give any extra water volume, instead, it takes away from the total volume of the display.

secondly, trash the lights. get a T-5 retrofit kit with individual reflectors- that's important.
you won't need a plexiglass shield between them and the water, and you won't want one either.
maybe a couple of these-
http://www.hellolights.com/index.asp?Pa ... rodID=1369
 
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Yeah, its unfortunate that it takes away from the main tank volume, but its still a good size tank for us considering the space available.

How would you recommend setting up that sump configuration?

I have an arse load of bio balls to use if neded as well.
 

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i wouldn't add any bio balls. live rock is good enough in the display.

as far as setting up the sump, what did you want to do with it? will you keep a refugium? i guess you'll need a hang-on skimmer, unless you can find something good, that has a small footprint.
looking at this design, i think you're not going to have much head loss with your return pump either, so you can go with a mag 2 or 3, or something equally sized.


i would use 1 or 2 of those large chambers to hold macroalgae, and put a little light over that area, get yourself a decent hang-on skimmer, and use a mag2 or 3 to push water through it.
you may need to place some netting or something at the bottom of the last baffle, before the return, to stop any stray macros from getting sucked into the pump.
i have used a sheet of stuff i got from walmart for this purpose. i found it in the crafts section- supposed to be for knitting or quilting or something. here's a pic-
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just keep an eye on it. i have it on my overflows so fish don't go for a ride to the sump, and it hasn't clogged up in months, but you never know.
either that, or you could use the sponge filter that comes with the magdrive pump(this too, you should keep an eye on, and clean regularly)
i prefer the white knitting stuff, because the holes are big enough for pods to get through, but not macros.

those light fixtures that came with the setup aren't marine fixtures i don't think, but the bulbs appear to be VHO bulbs. you could get away with replacing those bulbs and using them for a while....i still believe 4 or 6 x 54 watt T-5's would be better, but those will work.
a little rust won't hurt their performance :wink:
 
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Thanks for the suggestions X. I will use that netting for the overflow area, and also for the last baffle. I'm looking into skimmers to fit the footprint of the sump area, and it looks like the AquaC EV-120 will just fit with a footprint of 4.75" x 8.5" and a height of 18". It will be able to fit nicely, and reviews online say its a pretty good skimmer. A bit pricey, but its going to be tough to find another to fit the space requirements. (remember 9" of depth in the sump and just under 20" height)
http://www.proteinskimmer.com/products/EV120.htm
AquaC recommends a Mag 5 for this unit. They also recommend setting it up to take in unfiltered water from the tank. I'm thinking though that I would want some sort of filtration first though to remove and larger detritus or other debri,(perhaps a foam/sponge type filter pad) and also remove air bubbles to prevent them from getting in the intake flow of the skimmer.Maybe even putting the filter at the back end of the sump in the return area. Is this the proper way of setting it up ?

I can start looking for a mag 3 for return circulation.

Also, excellent link to the hellolight.com site. They have great prices for those retrofit kits. The 48" kits will be too long to fit the Tank hood, so I'd be looking for 36" kits.
Since thats the case, would a 3 bulb kit be better, or even a 4 bulb?
Maybe something like this:
http://www.hellolights.com/index.asp?Pa ... ProdID=239
 

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the skimmer will pull big things out of the tank as well as small particles, however, i don't think you are going to have giant things getting sucked down into the sump. maybe a stray piece of food or something, but it's not like you are going to have a mound of flakes floating around.

if you choose to put filter media anywhere in this setup, make sure you clean it out regularly...as much as a couple times a week even.

that's a nice fixture...but those are VHO's. you are better off with halides if you are going to consider them.
i mentioned T-5's. they have alot less heat and with individual refelctors, they are plenty strong.
 
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mr_X":2dadfg33 said:
the skimmer will pull big things out of the tank as well as small particles, however, i don't think you are going to have giant things getting sucked down into the sump. maybe a stray piece of food or something, but it's not like you are going to have a mound of flakes floating around.

if you choose to put filter media anywhere in this setup, make sure you clean it out regularly...as much as a couple times a week even.

that's a nice fixture...but those are VHO's. you are better off with halides if you are going to consider them.
i mentioned T-5's. they have alot less heat and with individual refelctors, they are plenty strong.

Even the 36" ? The ones you suggested were the 48" which will yield more light and wattage. Just wanna make sure the 2 lamp 36" would also work, or if you feel I'll need a higher power 36" setup than the T5 HO 's.
 

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oh..your right. sorry, i wasn't thinking.
2 -250 watt halides with 14k-20k lamps is what i would choose.
or that 3 bulb VHO retro you linked. :wink:
 
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The AquaC EV-120 is on its way, and Ill be snatching up a pair of Hydor Koralia 3's for in tank circulation.
 
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mr_X":1gu9s4hf said:
oh..your right. sorry, i wasn't thinking.
2 -250 watt halides with 14k-20k lamps is what i would choose.
or that 3 bulb VHO retro you linked. :wink:

Hows this look? I'll be picking it up tomorrow. Great deal (IMO at least) .
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Current USA Model 1076 36" Outer Orbit Pro Series
dual 250 watt 10K HQI MH
(4) 39 watt HO T-5 bulbs
(9) white + (9) blue LED lunar lights.
Total wattage is 656 watts.

snagged it from a local gentleman (ebay auction) for $365 (retail is like $1100) sweeeeeet :wink:

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hey, looks like you dont sleep either, lol :lol:

Maybe you can answer this question for me since you have experience with the Danner Mag pumps:

The AquaC EV120 is recommended to be used with the mag 5, which is what I ordered. The EV120 has a 3/4" input, and from what I can tell, the Mag5 has a 1/2" output. Can you confirm whether they have a 3/4 or 1/2" ?

If it is a 1/2" size output, what do you recommend using to adapt the output so that I can still use a 3/4" tube between the two ?
 

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Flow Rate: 500 GPH maximum with a 10.5` shut-off
Power Consumption: 45 Watts
Pump Size (L x W x H): 5.0" x 3.8" x 4.2"
Outlet Size / Inlet Size: 1/2" MPT / 1/2" FPT
10` grounded power cord
1 year manufacturer`s Limited Warranty
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go to the hidden reef. they have all sorts of adapters and reducers. you are going to put a ball valve on the pump before the skimmer so you can adjust it?
 

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