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Emergency Tank Smell/Crash???
03-30-2011, 08:45 PM
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Since last night my tank has smelled extra "aquarium" like... you know how it is when you first walk into your LFS. Any idea what the problem can be?

On a separate note (maybe), somehow over night my entire tank powered off so I had to restart it this morning... my water level was low (bubbles in the return) due to evaporation. This morning I topped off with 3-4 gals of RO/DI water then noticed my salinity was low and added some salt via the sump. My corals didn't open today at all... some of them looked slimey/melty and the smell has not gone away.

Any ideas what's going on? I'm hoping the corals didn't open because of the sudden drop and rise in salinity and a few degrees drop on temperature when I topped off.

What about the smell?? I have to get rid of it.

Levels are as follows after topping off/adding salt (PH 8.1, Salinity 1.0245, KH 11, Mag 1290, Calc 460, Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 20).
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03-30-2011, 08:59 PM
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Are you running carbon? When you added the salt to the sump, was it dissolved in water, or did you just put salt mix in?
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03-30-2011, 09:04 PM
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yes, running carbon.

no i did not dissolve the salt. i've added small amounts directly to the sump before with no issues. i add it to where bio-balls would be, so it mixes pretty good before getting to the return
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03-30-2011, 09:48 PM
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not sure what started the whole thing, but you topped off a 65 gallon tank with 4 gallons of fresh water quickly lowering the salinity, then threw undissolved salt in the sump. so it doesn't surprise me your coral are not happy today. your parameters seem fine other than the salinity, but you likely need to top off in smaller amounts and more often. either get an ATO or be willing to top off a half a gallon a day, maybe a gallon every other day. But if you let 4 gallons evaporate the salinity is going to fluctuate too much. And don't dissolve the salt directly in the tank. It should mix for 24 hours in RO/DI before you expose any livestock to it.
 
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03-30-2011, 10:59 PM
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It's the smell coming from your skimmer? Do you vent the skimmer exhaust through carbon?

+1 don't add salt directly to the tank. And 4 gallons will swing the salinity by a large amount.
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03-30-2011, 11:05 PM
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Heater short out? Something trip a breaker or surge protector? What was off on the tank.
 
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03-30-2011, 11:21 PM
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It's the smell coming from your skimmer? Do you vent the skimmer exhaust through carbon?

+1 don't add salt directly to the tank. And 4 gallons will swing the salinity by a large amount.
I did empty the skimmer... never heard of exhausting through carbon. How would you do this?

I don't normally add 4 gallons, it seemed to happen overnight.
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03-30-2011, 11:24 PM
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Heater short out? Something trip a breaker or surge protector? What was off on the tank.
It's possible my heater shorted out as I smelled a slight electronic burning this morning, but couldn't tell for sure. The entire tank was off when I woke up.

I unplugged my heater and UV sterilizer right away and have since plugged back in only the UV. My heater is rarely used anyways as my chiller has to run a few times a day even in the winter due to my pump and MH.
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2x Black Ocellaris Clown
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Emergency Update!!!!
03-31-2011, 09:13 PM
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Looks like the crash started... came home today to find a bunch of dead snails... and I cannot find a couple of fish although they could be behind the rocks. Corals still look melty and did not open today either.

Params are same as yesterday except my Ammonia has spiked to 1.0!!! I've never had a spike before. I'm making RO/DI to do changes and I'm about to remove all the dead snails.

Any other suggestions?

I still have the strong smell in my apartment, any ideas on this?
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1x Powder Brown Tang
1x Yellow Tang
1x Blue Hippo Tang
1x Blonde Naso Tang
3x Spotbreast Angelfish (male/female harem)
2x Ocellaris Clown
2x Black Ocellaris Clown
1x Zebra Barred Dartfish
10x Green Chromis
2x Scarlet Skunk
1x Blood Shrimp

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03-31-2011, 09:15 PM
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Looks like the crash started... came home today to find a bunch of dead snails... and I cannot find a couple of fish although they could be behind the rocks. Corals still look melty and did not open today either.

Params are same as yesterday except my Ammonia has spiked to 1.0!!! I've never had a spike before. I'm making RO/DI to do changes and I'm about to remove all the dead snails.

Any other suggestions?

I still have the strong smell in my apartment, any ideas on this?
Sounds like your tank is beginning to cycle.

May have something to do with the huge swing in salinity followed by raw salt added to the system.

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