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Dace

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Location
Manhattan
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Bubble King has very nice craftsmanship. The quality of their cnc'ing is the best in the hobby. They use special plastics for flanges and other parts that won't break like acrylic will. The bk's are very nice but the performance has alway been a questionable.

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This very true, But to repalce the red dragon pump when it die's will cost 1000.00 + alone. That alone scared me away from selling my deltec for a BK 400 external
 

Dace

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Location
Manhattan
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There really is no perfect skimmer

but I would concider any of these
Bubble King
Deltec
AEtech (ETSS)
Tunze
H&S
ASM
MTC
My reef creations

sorry if I forgot any please add to the list this is off the top of my head

P.S. Consumption should alway be a consideration. Keep in mind air cooled vs. water cooled. Cooloing the tank uses energy as well.
These are al desent, but i would recommend only these
If your loaded,
Bubble King,
If looking for great skimmer alittle less, Deltec or H & S
If your going good on a lower end ASM
I'm Needle Wheel all the way
 

fritz

OG of this here reef game
Location
Marine Park
Rating - 95.9%
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Seriously thrown the "conserve energy because it's good for the environment" argument out the window. You run a 210 gallon reef, there's no way to do that and put "conserve energy" in the same sentence. We kid ourselves I think, between the Metal Halides and pumps we use some serious juice. In addition there's the death toll to these animals and impact to their environment our hobby poses.

It is what it is.

That being said your tank will take some serious juice to run it, saving 50watts on a skimmer doesn't make much of a difference. I'd pick whichever skimmer you feel best with and don't worry about an extra 75 watts or so.
 

Reef Mongoose

Member
Location
Westchester
Rating - 100%
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yeah, I hear ya. No matter how much you try to limit your power consumption the tank is still going to draw a crap load of juice. However, every little bit does help, so as much as possible I am going to try to keep the power usage down.
 

meschaefer

One to Ignore
Location
Astoria
Rating - 100%
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Seriously thrown the "conserve energy because it's good for the environment" argument out the window. You run a 210 gallon reef, there's no way to do that and put "conserve energy" in the same sentence. We kid ourselves I think, between the Metal Halides and pumps we use some serious juice. In addition there's the death toll to these animals and impact to their environment our hobby poses.

It is what it is.

That being said your tank will take some serious juice to run it, saving 50watts on a skimmer doesn't make much of a difference. I'd pick whichever skimmer you feel best with and don't worry about an extra 75 watts or so.


I am sorry I total disagree with you. And I am not kidding myself about anything. The reality is that you have choices, we all have choices and each of these choice adds up.

You can run a closed loop or go with vortechs/tunze, you can run a beckett vs needle wheel, you can use submersible pumps vs external pumps and perhaps avoid the need for a chiller. You support the import of fish and corals through your purchases that have no business in our tanks, or you can try to educate people about what they are doing and buying.

You may only save 50 watts on a skimmer, but that is 50 watts running 24 hours a day. You can save another 50 watts making intelligent choices on flow. Save another 20 watts by spending a few dollars more on a return pump that runs 24 hours a day. You can save a whole lot more than that, by making smart informed decisions on your lighting needs. The larger the reef the bigger the impact because you have economy of scale working in your favor.

Granted our reefs have a negative impact on the environment and the reefs themselves, and I make no apologies or excuses for it. That doesn't mean that it is right, to be more wasteful than necessary.


:speech:

I'll step down now.
 

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