Ink, not sure if you make it up to Westchester much but Lou over at Jawz II in Elmsford sometimes gets golden angels in and most if not all of the time they are eating and look great. Also, if he doesn't have them in stock I am sure he can get you one. He is a little on the expensive side but his livestock is top notch.
SEARCHING FOR: Golden Pygmy AngeL
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Randy
They're out there, you can find some at the on-line places like Liveaquaria and similar places though there aren't as many as say clown or even basslets but the list is growing. The biggest problem is that they cost a lot more then the Wild caught ones and most people just don't want to pay the additional price so many places just don't carry them. You see this with the Clown fish quite often.
Sean I thought that the Mac's where being captive breed in Japan or China.
They're out there, you can find some at the on-line places like Liveaquaria and similar places though there aren't as many as say clown or even basslets but the list is growing. The biggest problem is that they cost a lot more then the Wild caught ones and most people just don't want to pay the additional price so many places just don't carry them. You see this with the Clown fish quite often.
Sean I thought that the Mac's where being captive breed in Japan or China.
- Location
- Brooklyn, NY
Marrone,
My point is that they are few and far between and very expensive, so I doubt the fish that Wingo has "eating' are due to them being captive bred. In fact, I'm sure of it. RCT Hawaii is the only place producing captive reared pygmies for the hobby and they have very limited quantities and currently only 4 very expensive species available.
http://www.rcthawaii.com/angel/3.htm
You are correct, the Mac's are being bred in Taiwan not sure who distributes them.
Falco, I agree about Louie he has a knack for Angels.
Randy
My point is that they are few and far between and very expensive, so I doubt the fish that Wingo has "eating' are due to them being captive bred. In fact, I'm sure of it. RCT Hawaii is the only place producing captive reared pygmies for the hobby and they have very limited quantities and currently only 4 very expensive species available.
http://www.rcthawaii.com/angel/3.htm
You are correct, the Mac's are being bred in Taiwan not sure who distributes them.
Falco, I agree about Louie he has a knack for Angels.
Randy
- Location
- East Patchogue - Suffolk, NY
Is this what we refer to a hijack at this point on this thread.....
And what is a golden pygmy is it a golden angelfish or something else...I know of a pygmy angelfish but not a golden pygmy angelfish....can someone post a stock pic.....
And ink I'll keep an eye out for one....
And what is a golden pygmy is it a golden angelfish or something else...I know of a pygmy angelfish but not a golden pygmy angelfish....can someone post a stock pic.....
And ink I'll keep an eye out for one....
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- Philippines
:sgrin::grumpy::batangel: yeS, my tHread got jack'd...
Golden Pygmy
itS a bad pic, i've seen them reaLLy goLden, not red
Golden Pygmy
itS a bad pic, i've seen them reaLLy goLden, not red
michael stern
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Actually, it's no picture
All the ones I've seen for sale locally are the darker red variety, have not seen a golden one since I left Cali. SDC have them on special this week, maybe one of the many "home fish store" type can order you one.
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- Philippines
i oNce saw one that was GOLD... :tired:
:headache: wasNt readY to sPend s0 much for a fiSh back tHen :arg::sigh::frown: to0 bad
:headache: wasNt readY to sPend s0 much for a fiSh back tHen :arg::sigh::frown: to0 bad
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- Philippines
:lol_large:birthday:rangehat eatiNg in fRont oF my face wouLd be niicee...
rangehat eatiNg in fRont oF my face wouLd be niicee...To keep a golden angel in an aquarium it needs to be in a reef aquarium so it can hide and pick on the reef. If a store puts one in a sterile aquarium and expects it to eat does not understand the nature of the species. They are extremely cryptic and hardly come out in the wild and it takes a while for them to adapt to aquarium life. Yes there is always exceptions to the rules but 1 in 10 is not worth taking the risk IMO.
Therefore if I was to get one in I would put it in a reef tank and feed it, eventually it should come out of hiding and show itself once in a while. Then to sell it I would have to destroy the reef and remove the fish. The process could take weeks even months. I would do this for a customer but honestly ink are you going to pay the premium price required for me to do this?
This is the proper way of doing it IMO.
I treat Regals the same way. I currently have one in a 180 waiting for it to eat properly. So far it's been over a month.
Therefore if I was to get one in I would put it in a reef tank and feed it, eventually it should come out of hiding and show itself once in a while. Then to sell it I would have to destroy the reef and remove the fish. The process could take weeks even months. I would do this for a customer but honestly ink are you going to pay the premium price required for me to do this?
This is the proper way of doing it IMO.
I treat Regals the same way. I currently have one in a 180 waiting for it to eat properly. So far it's been over a month.
- Location
- NY
Sean, KUDOS to you. It is a pleasure to hear you say this. I can't tell you how many pathetic situations I see in LFS regarding these fish. Not only is the proper collection of these delicate creatures imperative to their survival, but the treatment they receive after they're in our care that determines their fate too.
Ink, if you're planning on getting one, it sounds like you should be willing to spend the extra cash to acquire one with the odds Sean is prepared to provide to acclimate and QT it for you. Great job Sean.
swimmer
Ink, if you're planning on getting one, it sounds like you should be willing to spend the extra cash to acquire one with the odds Sean is prepared to provide to acclimate and QT it for you. Great job Sean.
swimmer
- Location
- Wallingford, CT
Sean is absolutely correct. IMO, no LFS incuding Sean would go through the trouble of placing a Golden into their display reef tank to acclimate and condition a fish to eat, then tear apart the display tank to retrieve the fish in order to sell it to a customer. You have to have enough "confidence" in your established flourishing reef tank and just take a chance with a fish like an C. aurantius. Of course you need to increase your odds by picking a specimen that show no typical signs of disease, injury and trying to stay down (decompression issues).
In most case scenerios, the only time you will get an Golden that's established and eating from another hobbiest or retailer is if they're breaking down their reef cause they are imposible to catch. Even after a year, my Golden does come out to eat with the rest of the fish on a daily basis but you can tell that he is still a "cryptic" fish and will bolt in a second.
Also what Cali stated earlier is correct. All the Goldens for the past year or two have been coming in with a dark coloration. Almost a burn't red to rust color. 5 to 8 years ago when they showed up in the trade, they were a beautiful bright "golden" color. The one I have was also purchased as a dark coloration fish but lately (after 14 or so months) it's coloration has lightened or brightened up from the head back.
Also for all those that are interested in an Centropyge aurantius, just to let you know, they are not really 100% "reef safe".
Mshur (Mike) had to tear apart his 140g reef a year or two ago to get his Golden out and my Golden is an SPS nipper. I don't believe that he does enough damage to kill the Acros but never the less, I've seen fellow hobbiest rip apart their reefs to oust the offender for less infractions. I can also tell you that this fish probably would not do well in an LPS enviroment. The Golden that I have decimated a Favites and picked on an open brain and last, it'll nip on clam mantles every so often also.
So no "mixed" reef for this fish and if your SPS dominated, you need to have a large enough tank and diversity so that it doesn't kill any one or two acros.
In most case scenerios, the only time you will get an Golden that's established and eating from another hobbiest or retailer is if they're breaking down their reef cause they are imposible to catch. Even after a year, my Golden does come out to eat with the rest of the fish on a daily basis but you can tell that he is still a "cryptic" fish and will bolt in a second.
Also what Cali stated earlier is correct. All the Goldens for the past year or two have been coming in with a dark coloration. Almost a burn't red to rust color. 5 to 8 years ago when they showed up in the trade, they were a beautiful bright "golden" color. The one I have was also purchased as a dark coloration fish but lately (after 14 or so months) it's coloration has lightened or brightened up from the head back.
Also for all those that are interested in an Centropyge aurantius, just to let you know, they are not really 100% "reef safe".
Mshur (Mike) had to tear apart his 140g reef a year or two ago to get his Golden out and my Golden is an SPS nipper. I don't believe that he does enough damage to kill the Acros but never the less, I've seen fellow hobbiest rip apart their reefs to oust the offender for less infractions. I can also tell you that this fish probably would not do well in an LPS enviroment. The Golden that I have decimated a Favites and picked on an open brain and last, it'll nip on clam mantles every so often also.
So no "mixed" reef for this fish and if your SPS dominated, you need to have a large enough tank and diversity so that it doesn't kill any one or two acros.
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Also........................
Goldflake angels, Apolemichthys xanthopunctatus are SPS nippers. I guess I live dangerously
Goldflake angels, Apolemichthys xanthopunctatus are SPS nippers. I guess I live dangerously
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- Philippines
:party::cheekkiss:Blurp: diBs on pecan'S goLden :lol:
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- Wallingford, CT
Okay Don,
I'll put you down for my Golden, Regal & Goldflake
I'll put you down for my Golden, Regal & Goldflake
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