Eric Borneman coral controversy

[Anonymous]

When his tank crashed recently, I read that he listed one of these 'research corals' to have been lost with his home reef. :?

I heard it was more than one. Timing of that crash was interesting, too.

 

[pcardone]

It seems to me his inventory list was suspect considering the size of the project. could you imagine having those recourses at your disposal.

 

[bleedingthought]

When his tank crashed recently, I read that he listed one of these 'research corals' to have been lost with his home reef. :?

I heard it was more than one. Timing of that crash was interesting, too.

I didn't want to go into that topic, but I thought about the same exact thing. Funny how things happen, eh?

 

[pwj1286]

When his tank crashed recently, I read that he listed one of these 'research corals' to have been lost with his home reef. :?

I believe it was monitpora elkhorn. Those are cultured by ORA. Anybody can have those. It was just the size of it was such a shock for him to loose. I think it was upwards to 14 + inches.

 

[Anonymous]

Registrant Street1omainsByProxy.com

Figures the site would be registered under a proxy

 

[Anonymous]

It would be nice to hear his side of the story. I wonder if he will respond to it?

IMhhhO, I think he has to at some point.

 

[bleedingthought]

Registrant Street1omainsByProxy.com

Figures the site would be registered under a proxy

What does that mean to the story, Gresh?

 

[liquid]

Interesting. They've added a LOT more PDF's since I read it yesterday.

Shane

 

[Anonymous]

He did respond to it. He said it's a bunch of lies spread by people trying to discredit him. Then he threatened to sue anyone discussing it. Then the thread got deleted.

I'm going to say the same thing I said on RC before the thread got closed. (Imagine that :roll: )

I for one intend to follow the resolution of this because if even only one of the charges are fully closed as accurate, I will be VERY DISAPPOINTED!!!!

Number one, the email said the Laurie from NOAA had to be gone so Eric was given permission, if necessary, to remove corals from baskets provided they were on the list and provided they were less than 20cm in size. According to the emails, neither of these rules were followed as he had 40 corals greater than the 20cm limit.

Number two, I'm an accountant and I have the sense to not mix Atlantic corals with Indo-Pacific corals if the purpose is for coral disease research. One would have thought that Eric would have understood that.

Number three, Eric admitted that some of the protected corals were somehow at his house as opposed to the University of Houston or Reef Savers.

Number four, Why is Eric prohibited from entering Reef Savers facility?

Number five, the fact that the person who put up the web page is remaining anonymous doesn't affect my curiousness about this situation. Whistleblowers often prefer this mode of operation. It took almost 30 years for us to find out that Deep Throat was W. Mark Felt.

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The funny thing is that the Lauri in my point number one actually responded to the thread before it got closed.

 

[Anonymous]

He did respond to it. He said it's a bunch of lies spread by people trying to discredit him. Then he threatened to sue anyone discussing it. Then the thread got deleted.



The funny thing is that the Lauri in my point number one actually responded to the thread before it got closed.

I am a little confused!
The RC thread is closed. Was there another on that got deleted? Did Eric reply to the closed thread but have his post deleted?
I didn't see a post from Lauri in the closed thread, but I did see a post from someone quoting Lauri.

 

[fcmatt]

you mean i am not supposed to have my secret tank full of acropora florida?
rare coral is a status symbol every expert should have access to!

 

[sedgro]

Acropora florida is a Pacific species. Acropora palmata, Acropora cervicornis and Acropora prolifera are the Atlantic/Carribean species.

 

[Anonymous]

He did respond to it. He said it's a bunch of lies spread by people trying to discredit him. Then he threatened to sue anyone discussing it. Then the thread got deleted.



The funny thing is that the Lauri in my point number one actually responded to the thread before it got closed.

I am a little confused!
The RC thread is closed. Was there another on that got deleted? Did Eric reply to the closed thread but have his post deleted?
I didn't see a post from Lauri in the closed thread, but I did see a post from someone quoting Lauri.

Sorry....bad time of year for me. I'm an accountant and EXTREMELY TIRED!!!

The deleted thread was on MD. On RC, there was a thread that was closed but not deleted.

When I read this post, in my mind, this is Lauri herself.

He did not have a permit to collect from the lab. He was given permission to take the corals that were too small to meet the requirements for relocation.
He was given a full explanation and was well aware of why he could only take those small corals. They were the corals that were too small to meet the Federal requirements that the Navy had agreed for relocation.
If you will read everything, it is spelled out in Lauri's email dated Feb 14, that Eric was "originally to chip his own corals from the wall, but this fell through with logistics" "he did collect from the nursery baskets and looking at his inventory he totally disregarded my (Lauri) directive" "11 coral species totaling 40 corals ALL over 20 cm."

"I (Lauri) specifically explained that for the corals over 20 cm, the Navy was obligated be permitting to transplant them and that they MUST remain in the nursery."

Eric knew exactly what he was doing. He waited until Lauri was not "watching the hen house", when he knew she was not there.

Lauri's fault was to explain to him the situation, make him fully aware of why he could only take certain size corals, then trust him.

Then when the corals started dying on him, he was busy traveling. How could he not get in the warehouse to return the corals, when he could get in the warehouse for a salt study.

 

[Anonymous]

Thats what i thought happened!

 

[Anonymous]

8O

 

[Anonymous]

Very sad. And rotten, too.

 

[Anonymous]

That makes me think twice about my offer to have him over to my house to collect flatworms.

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry....bad time of year for me. I'm an accountant and EXTREMELY TIRED!!!

Strange, my cousin the CPA is the same way then for some reason right after around mid April he goes on vacation

 

[Anonymous]

Registrant Street1omainsByProxy.com

Figures the site would be registered under a proxy

What does that mean to the story, Gresh?

Well, she isn't exactly doing this for environmental reasons

There's a reason she hid her name when registerring the site

 

[Anonymous]

Its funny, even though she may have other motives, I think the info is still important and germane to the reefing community.