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I have a good memory also.
I also have a question.
If a few of the people posting are so sure Eric is innocent, why are you not calling for these super secret papers that show his innocence?
If you are so sure of his innocence, why are you trying to post in a way to try and get the thread closed?
If you were so sure, it seems to me that you would have more confidence than that.
I also have a question.
If a few of the people posting are so sure Eric is innocent, why are you not calling for these super secret papers that show his innocence?
If you are so sure of his innocence, why are you trying to post in a way to try and get the thread closed?
If you were so sure, it seems to me that you would have more confidence than that.
I haven't been following this thread closely for some time now. However, I think it behooves us all to stay pertinent to the topic. Whatever motives one may have in their postings, please let factual arguments dictate your's. Stay clear of needless speculation and statements you can't or aren't' willing to defend.
Len":2pyw47gv said:
In that spirit, I'll return to something I think it got lost in the "clutter"...
srsly?: I'm curious as to what you would make of the fact that the permit application came somewhat "after the fact?" Do you think that may have influenced anything? ...or means anything for the rest of the documents?
sihaya":1k0stty6 said:
im wondering why he got a permit at all? seems there are plenty of scientists around that can do the work, cheaper, and closer, and better. nothing against his carachter or his science, just seems like people would be lining up to get a hold of some of these. does the foia show how many other applied for permits? or were an other permits issued for these corals?
sihaya":17t1at17 said:
well i've only read what you've posted on your website. i didn't notice chronology or anything... how do you know that?
anyhow, let's not hijack this thread with permits and Borneman chitchat, can we stay on topic and get back to you telling me what a hottie you are? the other stuff is way complicated - makes my brayn hurt.
Cracker2":2xydnwoz said:
afaic, his innocence or guilt is completely irrelevant-what we have presented before us here is an extremely SELECT group of documents being used to attempt to sway people to a sweeping conclusion-morally reprehensible, immature, and very very foolish-the poster deserves to be challenged merely on her modus operandi
you expect to find documents that he owed Reef Savers, and that he didn't get kicked out of Reef Savers. That he ran to the phone and called his permitting office as soon as it happened.
That he didn't travel to Puerto Rico and leave the corals in that condition.
That the Superintendent of the Sanctuary, Billy Causey, did not have to exercise his authority under permit Special Condition 1 and write him a formal letter demanding that the corals be returned immediately to the custody of the Sanctuary.
good luck
That he didn't travel to Puerto Rico and leave the corals in that condition.
That the Superintendent of the Sanctuary, Billy Causey, did not have to exercise his authority under permit Special Condition 1 and write him a formal letter demanding that the corals be returned immediately to the custody of the Sanctuary.
good luck
vitz":2lhq04d7 said:
it doesnt seem like a select group, it seems like everything she has, and it seems like there were some things done wrong, even without the missing papers, its pretty obvious that alot of corals were taken from a naval sanctuary, and mishandled. that is basically what we are discussing, that, and who's at fault for this, the "missing" documents will only help point fingers. its just a simple discussion.
andybeats":1vkmrq03 said:
it's a select group from the total of relevant 'documents' that are involved in being able to arrive at the TRUTH of what happened-asking folks to make a judgement on a part of the truth is, well, see my above post
the fact that it MIGHT be all she has (her word only, and i'll reserve the right to hold all of her words as suspect, based on past experience) is irrelevant and immaterial-it was highly irresponsible of her to post it to begin with
I thought it was very responsible.
In the process, a lot of people that did not know she was looking into it, contacted her, gave her the right places and people to send it to. More specific questions to ask, and the right people to direct those questions to. More people to contact and how to contact them.
It seemed she had hit a dead end.
This was the perfect way to get more information. As a matter of fact, that is what forums are for. Gathering more information.
In the process, a lot of people that did not know she was looking into it, contacted her, gave her the right places and people to send it to. More specific questions to ask, and the right people to direct those questions to. More people to contact and how to contact them.
It seemed she had hit a dead end.
This was the perfect way to get more information. As a matter of fact, that is what forums are for. Gathering more information.
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