cortez marine":2tnj396j said:
All,
There is a tension between aquarium people who want this trade clean and sustainable and professional administrators of grants, projects and their own careers.
If in house trade reformers fail...its our livlihood.
If outside pro NGOs fail...they're off on another project tomorrow.
Rolling over for the interloper sector that frontloads office reform as opposed to the field reform is beyond me. As a weekly importer of marine livestock...it is kinda relevant EVERY day including Sunday evenings when I'd rather be home watching Alias... or the re-run of '24' which I often miss because of Tuesday nite packing for East coast shipouts.
If daily attention to detail in the livestock trade is not every importers concern, what is?
However, we do have a fundamental difference in philosophy. I think the fish quality concerns begin at the moment of capture...and others believe it begins at the moment of opening the box in the US...or choosing a fish in a retailers tank.
FEELING THE FIELD CONNECTION must logically come from being a collector first and an importer/wholesaler years later.
This is a lonely position to be in as there are so few importers with that experience underwater and in poor fishing villages ...[ where the fish come from].
I'm not surprised at being misunderstood. In fact, it seems logical to be misunderstood given the facts. Steve
Steve
i don't think anyone misunderstands the importance of quality conditions/handling from moment of capture,
(including the ngo's that don't want/seem to want, to adress), but it's still
A piece of a puzzle :wink:
when a group of people are trying to build one of those humungous jigsaw puzzles, and one finds a piece and fits it in....
they usually don't start telling others to hurry up and find a piece....
they either go look for another piece, or help someone else find one
:wink:
there are times i want to 'thread spam' this forum for some of the bs (imo) that i read here (as i've been known to do at least once in the sump :wink: ) out of sheer frustration, and anger at a few participants here, hehe. :evil: :wink:
(and i know i still sometimes 'lose it') :wink:
even when i read some of your posts that deal more w/an issue, as opposed to an entity's actions, i come away feeling that there's an attack directed at someone buried in there, somewhere( even though i know there isn't) :?
i can understand why and how this happens - passion and frustration are a volatile mix sometimes
i don't think a 'leader' is necessary, nor desirable, at this point in the game, whether it's an individual, or an ngo, btw
i think it's absolutely essential for a buncha groups to first each get a piece of the puzzle, complete it fully, fit it in, THEN go help another work on another piece
so simple, and effective, an idea
it's those that either haven't tried or don't bother to self educate beyond the point of clulessness, or the parts of those ngo's that are clueless, and wasteful, that i have the sole problem with
they can be left to play with their copy of the puzzle, while other move on to finish the better original :wink:
A lot of fleas can kill a bear (old russian proverb :wink: )
