limestone rock

[Anonymous]

Actually, expanding on a yes or no encourages discussion, so we all learn? Then, we can decide what changes we can make to make our tanks healthier?

I do agree that saying "No" or "yes" and that is all is better that insulting someone's integrity or their tank. I don't think that encourages discussion...

Wade, if I understand you right, and I am the first to admit that my understanding of chemical reactions is basic to say the least, you are saying that enough chemical compounds can be released to cause toxicity to our systems? But, not enough to change the carbonate level?

 

[Anonymous]

Wade, Aerosmith and whomever else.

Wade you are correct in that these forums are not like phd dissertations. So we kinda hit the high points.

Aero Yes Wade is saying that chemical can be released to cause toxicity and not enough to materially change the calcium carbonate level. Which is possible.

I have posted specific bioaccumulation levels from controlled experiments showing how macro algaes filter copper.


The tank of the month has had limestone rocks for years and years.

So now with those high points the readers here can conduct further research if they desire.

And that is what I think is so important with these message boards. The exchange of ideas and shareing of experiences for all to see.

my .02

 

[Anonymous]

And that is what I think is so important with these message boards. The exchange of ideas and sharing of experiences for all to see.

my .02

Or is it more about discrediting each other?

 

[Anonymous]

And that is what I think is so important with these message boards. The exchange of ideas and sharing of experiences for all to see.

my .02

Or is it more about discrediting each other?

hard to tell sometimes. :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Nice to see how much it's improved since 2004 .

I like to take advice from people who have a tank that I would want in my living room. If this is the tank you want, well, congrats, I guess. :?

 

[Anonymous]

I like mine, and it really doesn't matter to me what others think. Have you tried limestone and have something constructive to add to this thread? I would love to see your tank and hear your experiences with this posters question....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73WnJLnUNMc

 

[Anonymous]

Ok, so I'm pushing views on my videos, right? Someone left this comment:


"Nice tank. I hope you don't play that kind of music for the inhabitants. I think they would prefer something more soothing, in my humble opinion."


Hey, sorry, but they told me they love Sammy. I really think that particular song is why my fish breed every 12-14 days.....

She put the cream in my coffee...
Spread hot butter on my biscuit....
Berries on bananas...

Get your mind out of the gutter, will you? He's talking about breakfast....

 

[Anonymous]

I like mine, and it really doesn't matter to me what others think. Have you tried limestone and have something constructive to add to this thread? I would love to see your tank and hear your experiences with this posters question....

You missed my point. My point was that if you're going to give advice that's 98% contrary to those on this board, then maybe a tank displaying his viewpoint should be the final decision maker.

There are those on this board who have a basic tank set up with the basic advice given here. In three year's time, they absolutely BLOW away what was shown in BB's given method of reef keeping.

 

[Anonymous]

multi

 

[Anonymous]

multi

 

[Anonymous]

multi.

 

[Anonymous]

I like mine, and it really doesn't matter to me what others think. Have you tried limestone and have something constructive to add to this thread? I would love to see your tank and hear your experiences with this posters question....

You missed my point. My point was that if you're going to give advice that's 98% contrary to those on this board, then maybe a tank displaying his viewpoint should be the final decision maker.

There are those on this board who have a basic tank set up with the basic advice given here. In three year's time, they absolutely BLOW away what was shown in BB's given method of reef keeping.

Well using that logic I recommend tap water and macros. like this tank.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/10/aquarium

And in this thread I stated you could use limestone rocks just like this tank:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2007/2/aquarium

both tanks of the month.

So with your logic we should recommend using tap water and macros in the display along with limestone rocks.


So I'll just continue to come home to my simple to maintain and inexpensive to setup tank with thriving fish and corals. Just as I have for past 4 years with this particular tank. And for the last 26+ years with various other Fw and FO salt tanks.

Either that or you wouldn't have those tanks of the month in your living room either.



Therefore and by your recommendation, I'll just continue to come home to an easy to maintain, inexpensive to setup tank with thriving fish and corals.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, bob, I guess you're correct. :lol: :roll: Most people will have the budget for a 2000-20,000 gallon tank. In fact most people will have room enough to put a 4000 gallon skimmer in their living room. What a moronic post, you're showing huge tanks with skimmers with limestone even though your argument is against them in another breath.

And I guess your right. Most tanks here would LOVE to have tons and tons of calarpa in their tank. Chances are most people will end up with a tank like your's, using your "methods". That's where MY logic leaves me, and your tank is my proof.

My logic also shows that most people asking questions here aren't "Advanced Aquarists", which means that if they follow MY logic, YOU AREN'T AN ADVANCED AQUARIST EITHER because your tank doesn't look like the ones in the thread that you just showed. If you want to talk about MY logic, carry MY logic all the way through. :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Why is there such a push to discredit alternative ideas? Here, this discussion is about using limestone. But, it turns into an attack on a person who says it can be done?

I did not misunderstand your point. You want to discredit someone.

Do you have any experience with using limestone? Do you have any contribution to why using limestone is bad?

The only reason I can see that you and others are offering is that it is detrimental is because one guy says it is not.

I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that RDO encourages people to insult each other in the forum called "The sump" but we could discuss reef keeping in the other forums.


(Do skimmers actually remove the toxins that are allegedly released by limestone in a pH of 8.0?)

 

[Anonymous]

Why is there such a push to discredit alternative ideas? Here, this discussion is about using limestone. But, it turns into an attack on a person who says it can be done?

I did not misunderstand your point. You want to discredit someone.

Do you have any experience with using limestone? Do you have any contribution to why using limestone is bad?

The only reason I can see that you and others are offering is that it is detrimental is because one guy says it is not.

I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that RDO encourages people to insult each other in the forum called "The sump" but we could discuss reef keeping in the other forums.


(Do skimmers actually remove the toxins that are allegedly released by limestone in a pH of 8.0?)

I'm not discrediting him.... his tank does that for him.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, his tank is different than the usual wall to wall rock with hard stony corals. But, his fish look healthy, and the corals he does have look healthy. He does not have a painted background, so that is your argument against using limestone as base rock? Because you feel that bb's tank is not healthy?

Sompa, two people here have said they use this rock without issues. A curator of a large public aquarium uses it. You already have 120 lbs of live rock. No one here has stated that they had an issue using this rock.

The argument against using it are that it can leach toxic chemicals into your tank.

There is a guy on reef central who is very informed about chemical reactions and properties who might be able to assist you.

 

[Anonymous]

Bob, I can not see nuisance algae in your tank. No cyano, no hair alga, no bryopsis, and I can not visualize any janitors. Do you have a lot of snails keeping your rock that clean?

 

[Anonymous]

Bob, I can not see nuisance algae in your tank. No cyano, no hair alga, no bryopsis, and I can not visualize any janitors. Do you have a lot of snails keeping your rock that clean?

thanks.

Have about 6 hermits, a couple emerald crabs, 1/2 dozen or so astra snails. I do clean the glass couple of times per week. And scrub the egg crate couple times per month. I do dose nitrates to keep them above ~10ppm.

My wife's 29g with ro/di, live rock, live sand was convered with cyano. Which went away in two weeks with the nitrate dosing.


I just try to balance out the tanks to favor the plant life I want at the expense of the plant life I don't. Still have to do some cleaning but not much.

 

[Anonymous]

Are you using GregWatson's stuff?

 

[mr_X]

wings. i think you are out of line.