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Maybe there could be a forum where we could discuss limestone use in a marine aquarium.....
 
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Lawdawg":nxylw1cx said:
:roll: here we go again...

sompa,

Before you take any advice from BBob, I suggest you do a search of his many posts on this board, and other reef sites on the web. His methods and advice are countercurrent to accepted practices in reefkeeping. He also couples his wrong advice with dubious reasoning that is frankly misleading unless you have the knowledge to see the holes in his arguments.

All that having been said, his tank speaks for itself in terms of the results he obtains.

Not sniping or personal attack? Any actual information about using limestone?
 
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blackcloudmedia":2vnfdhkh said:
Not to be mean beaslebob but your tank is kinda......ugly. Whats that grating in the back. Its also very green.
 
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wings":3bam6yz4 said:
You missed my point. My point was that if you're going to give advice that's 98% contrary to those on this board, then maybe a tank displaying his viewpoint should be the final decision maker.

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What advice is BB giving contrary to any advice given in this thread?
 
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Lawdawg":250n1x02 said:
The bolded portion above is also my greatest issue with BBob, that his "method" recommended to a new person is a disaster waiting to happen.
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What method are we discussing here? BB is talking about using limestone. Is that a method I haven't read about?
 
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Aerosmith":3s738a1c said:
Lawdawg":3s738a1c said:
:roll: here we go again...

sompa,

Before you take any advice from BBob, I suggest you do a search of his many posts on this board, and other reef sites on the web. His methods and advice are countercurrent to accepted practices in reefkeeping. He also couples his wrong advice with dubious reasoning that is frankly misleading unless you have the knowledge to see the holes in his arguments.

All that having been said, his tank speaks for itself in terms of the results he obtains.

Not sniping or personal attack? Any actual information about using limestone?

That's a personal attack? It's called an opinion. As far as limestone, I was not the one to change the topic, Bob himself did that way back on page 3.

beaslbob":3s738a1c said:
..Well using that logic I recommend tap water and macros...
 
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andy37":ulp7nbcy said:
Aerosmith":ulp7nbcy said:
andy37":ulp7nbcy said:
+1 for avoid Bob's advice....

And pray tell, how is that comment either sniping or a personal attack?

You do not feel it is a personal attack? How does it relate to using limestone? I do not come to this site enough to know your special language, but it very much seems to single out a persdon (personal) and it is attacking.

Why can't we discuss this subject? On a site dedicated to fish, reefs and marine aquaria?
 
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Have you opinions about people... an opinion about the actual topic would be helpful, too.
 
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Aerosmith":3vytebtl said:
andy37":3vytebtl said:
Aerosmith":3vytebtl said:
andy37":3vytebtl said:
+1 for avoid Bob's advice....

And pray tell, how is that comment either sniping or a personal attack?

You do not feel it is a personal attack? How does it relate to using limestone? I do not come to this site enough to know your special language, but it very much seems to single out a persdon (personal) and it is attacking.

Why can't we discuss this subject? On a site dedicated to fish, reefs and marine aquaria?

How was it personal? I voiced an opinion on the methods Bob was mentioning. Just because you dont like my opinion doesnt somehow make it a personal attack. BTW it does relate to the use of limestone, Bob is for it, I am against it. Take it or leave it, but I think you are just a teenie bit oversensitive about this.
 
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BB, find me elsewhere? There are very few here that want to discuss our hobby....
 
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Aerosmith":2xjndf2x said:
BB, find me elsewhere? There are very few here that want to discuss our hobby....

Good luck finding a board where he has not been banned :lol:
 
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FWIW, I am certain that experimentation must be encouraged in order for the hobby to advance. However, encouraging methods that fly in the face of existing knowledge and represent a 180 degree about face from conventional wisdom must always be viewed with a high degree of suspicion. All that was happening here is a (much deserved imho) health warning was being attached to these 'methods' to prevent new hobbyists from assuming they were the norm.
 
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Hey errorsmurf!

Did you ever bother to read the links Lawdawg posted above?
...or were you too busy misinturpreting the user agreement :wink:
 
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Lawdawg":31orsx8f said:
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You seem to discount the well-documented role various bacteria plays in the ammonia cycle. How very scientific of you! I won't even begin to address your consistent argument that terrestrial plants and marine macro algae function the same.


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What I say specifically is that plant life prefers to consume ammonia over nitrates. So what happens is the aerobic bacteria and plant life work together to consume the ammonia preventing deep dangerous ammonia/nitrite/nitrate spikes. Then as the aerobic bacteria build up the macros are forced into consuming the only nitrogen available the nitrates.

Then further down the road say something goes bump in the night. And ammonia increases. The macros then immediately start consuming ammonia to prevent not only the spike but interrupting the chain reaction which cause a system crash. So the system is stabilized and returns to normal operation.

So sufficient plant life macros/corraling/green hair algae, in a refugium or on live rock stabilize the system. With the aid of aerobic bacteria.




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andy37":iahzku0c said:
Perhaps there should be a forum established for "Unconventional or Experimental reefkeeping methods"..........

Andy:

And even better question would be why balancing a tank with plant life is considered unconventional or experiemental.

After all live rock is considered better if it is convered with plant life. and the more plant life the better.

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beaslbob":3c2n3sf9 said:
andy37":3c2n3sf9 said:
Perhaps there should be a forum established for "Unconventional or Experimental reefkeeping methods"..........

Andy:

And even better question would be why balancing a tank with plant life is considered unconventional or experiemental.

After all live rock is considered better if it is convered with plant life. and the more plant life the better.

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Topping up with tap water
No water changes- ever

Need I go on?
FWIW I have macro in my 'fuge, reading those links above you state that all you need is macro algae- somewhat different from LR covered in plant life.......
 

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