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tosiek

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Pressure crack it was very small on the edge of the glass,and got bigger with time until it craked all the way thru,good luck

+1, plus the touching rocks + vibrations in the tank from equipment didn't help at all. There should be no reason to have rocks touching any sides btw. Its good practice not to do that in glass tanks.

Sorry this happened. I had one of my tanks crack and the whole thing just sucks to deal with.
 
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thanks wingo, and i just bought that aiptasia eating nudi from u tooo.. uggghhh...

Your tank crack is VERY VERY bad, right from the bottom, zero water left man.

Just yesterday, I was carrying a bag of nudi and the bag dropped in the street right outside my store and burst. I was having a hard time scooping them back in the whatever remaining water. Looks like my luck is slightly better than yours.

Look at the bright side, you don't have to worry about aiptasia for the time being. Hope the joke help.
 

yah-the submariner

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That sucks,i completely understand your loss. last summer a Puffer tank i built and donated to a school broke the same way but in the front. No rocks on glass just s tiny crack(i later discovered) on a side seam where the front and side panel connected.Sheer water pressure(weight) alone cause a stress fracture and in one night went from one side to the other and split open identical to yours,completely drained. Same height. I wonder if it was the same tank manufacturer? i also don't remember who made that tank.i did save the puffers but only briefly,they died. it was a Pita getting all that water up.i Now keep an Acrylic 90 at home,and people(including Lfs,lol) ride me for it,but i've learned i'll take a scratch over a flood any day. hope things turn out in your favor,maybe this was an upgrade in disguise for your Bday!
 

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I'm curious as to why people think that the rock leaning on the glass caused the tank to crack? The pressure of leaning rock is far less than the pressure of the water by itself. What about the weight of all rock, sand and water on the bottom pane why didn't the bottom pane crack on his tank or any of ours?



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james1990

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sorry to hear this man. thats crazy I would freak out. I would have loved to see pictures though, to see if it comes close to the image i have nightmares about lol

goodluck with everything IMO the LFS should take care of you in some way. Considering it was all THEIR product and installed by THEM. The fact that you spent the extra $$ to have them do that should come with some type of gentlemans agreement.
 

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this suck bro hope that the lfs and the manufacture come true for u and last comment about hope it was the alcohol is mad funny i know that feeling tho i come out side my apt not too long and someone stole my hid and grill of my car and when i first looks at it i had the same feeling maybe am still drunk this cant be my car mybe i need more sleep
 

tosiek

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I'm curious as to why people think that the rock leaning on the glass caused the tank to crack? The pressure of leaning rock is far less than the pressure of the water by itself. What about the weight of all rock, sand and water on the bottom pane why didn't the bottom pane crack on his tank or any of ours?


Tank bottoms are typically tempered improving the strength of the bottom pane of glass and are sometimes a slightly thicker glass. Its built to support a ton of weight, both water and rock/sand.

This is majorly over thinking whats going on with the glass:

Water pressure on all sides of a tank balances out, the glass bends and supports the water pressure evenly without major stress that leads to cracking. A leaning rock displaces that pressure and creates a point of slightly greater pressure on the pane of glass. If the glass has any imperfections, cracks, ect it causes that pane of glass to have a much greater chance of failing. But the real problem with that leaning rock isn't just that it increases the chances of failure because of an inconsistancy of weight distribution but because there are vribrations in your tank from the pumps, skimmer, powerheads, ect. Even driving cars down the road, you walking next to the tank, ect. The rock acts like a jackhammer on the glass creating vibrations through the glass that gather at those chips causing those chips to create a crack through the tank.

You don't cut glass like you do wood or something, you create a vibration in a chip along the surface of the glass, a little pressure added to that chip and the glass breaks. In theory, a leaning piece of rock helps to create the conditions needed to crack a tank.
 
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mdevera15

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update - the fish store that installed the tank just picked it up. said they've never seen a tank break like this before.. said they're going to show it to the manufacturer/distributor along with the list i gave them of all the livestock i lost.

gonna give the insurance company a call today,

we'll see what happens next.

so if this happens to anyone else in the future, here's your catastrophe guide.. hehe
 

kidninja

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update - the fish store that installed the tank just picked it up. said they've never seen a tank break like this before.. said they're going to show it to the manufacturer/distributor along with the list i gave them of all the livestock i lost.

gonna give the insurance company a call today,

we'll see what happens next.

so if this happens to anyone else in the future, here's your catastrophe guide.. hehe


make sure you don't mentioned that you saw it when you came back from a bar =)
 

edd

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sorry for your loss and aggravation but i don't believe that rock leaning on glass caused the crack i dont think your responsible. i had a 90 cichlid tank with 150lbs of rock leaning on back glass for 4 years never had a problem, may be i got lucky. the way that glass cracked from both lower corners i think the stand was defective un even or high spots in the back, i have a 150 acrylic now with rock leaning on back i hope I'm not posting a thread like this one day. you should post if they give you a reason as to why it cracked so if its human error may be someone can avoid it in the future. best of luck in future
 

jcurry

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Tank bottoms are typically tempered improving the strength of the bottom pane of glass and are sometimes a slightly thicker glass. Its built to support a ton of weight, both water and rock/sand.

This is majorly over thinking whats going on with the glass:

Water pressure on all sides of a tank balances out, the glass bends and supports the water pressure evenly without major stress that leads to cracking. A leaning rock displaces that pressure and creates a point of slightly greater pressure on the pane of glass. If the glass has any imperfections, cracks, ect it causes that pane of glass to have a much greater chance of failing. But the real problem with that leaning rock isn't just that it increases the chances of failure because of an inconsistancy of weight distribution but because there are vribrations in your tank from the pumps, skimmer, powerheads, ect. Even driving cars down the road, you walking next to the tank, ect. The rock acts like a jackhammer on the glass creating vibrations through the glass that gather at those chips causing those chips to create a crack through the tank.

You don't cut glass like you do wood or something, you create a vibration in a chip along the surface of the glass, a little pressure added to that chip and the glass breaks. In theory, a leaning piece of rock helps to create the conditions needed to crack a tank.

You don't really believe this do you?


Personally I would look at the stand, make sure it's level, that the top isn't crowned or that the LFS didn't shim between the tank and stand.
 

mdevera15

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thats the whole reason y im posting this up on MR. I've gotten so much info from this forum since i got into this hobby so i figure something can be learned from this too. not only how to prevent something like this from happening but also what your options are if (god forbid) this actually happens to someone else..

sorry for your loss and aggravation but i don't believe that rock leaning on glass caused the crack i dont think your responsible. i had a 90 cichlid tank with 150lbs of rock leaning on back glass for 4 years never had a problem, may be i got lucky. the way that glass cracked from both lower corners i think the stand was defective un even or high spots in the back, i have a 150 acrylic now with rock leaning on back i hope I'm not posting a thread like this one day. you should post if they give you a reason as to why it cracked so if its human error may be someone can avoid it in the future. best of luck in future
 

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