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liquid":446po7j8 said:
6-8 weak magnets.
Put some magnets around your return line and you should get the same benifits* as plumbing the unit in
*I would still assume the benifits would be nothing.
Has anyone tried or heard of Eco Aqualizer??
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6-8 weak magnets.
Put some magnets around your return line and you should get the same benifits* as plumbing the unit in
*I would still assume the benifits would be nothing.
(j/k)MattM,
Thanks for the photos and really appreciate that there are people out there willing to do the research for us to show what products work and those that are SCAMS like this one.
Even if this thing really worked why would we pay that amount of money for something that anyone could make? Even I could make a similar device with a simple trip to lowes or HD.
-Puff
Thanks for the photos and really appreciate that there are people out there willing to do the research for us to show what products work and those that are SCAMS like this one.
Even if this thing really worked why would we pay that amount of money for something that anyone could make? Even I could make a similar device with a simple trip to lowes or HD.
-Puff
I'm as skeptical a person as you're going to find, especially about things like this. But I think we owe it to this bulletin board, and for the sake of rationality to deal with this device on its own terms.
It needs to be properly tested against the claims of its manufacturer, not ridiculed instead. The testing that could be done by Inland Reef Aquaria ought to serve as more than a simple analysis of this device. It could serve as an example of how to evaluate any device for aquarium use. We may think that this case is a "slam dunk" for evaluation of performance and think that testing is hardly even necessary. But instead it should serve as a good example of how to think intelligently about our aquariums and what is going on inside them. The function of many aquarium devices and methodologies are simply taken for granted.
I think it would surprise us all to learn than many of the things related to our aquariums are not what we think they are. This prospect has differing affects on hobbyists. For some it means a complete loss of direction, as if an explorer had their compass snatched from their hands. To others, it opens doorways to deeper understanding and gives pathways to success that were previously unimaginable.
Never forget that one of the most revolutionary devices of modern aquarium-keeping is a plastic sheet with holes in it - the undergravel filter. This monument to low-tech devices does exactly what it is designed to do with uncommon efficiency. It's sad that modern hobbyists who know nothing of undergravel filters, nor have ever used one, treat this device as some sort of comical "whipping-boy". They are incapable of intelligently thinking of it on its own terms, and so ignorance lives in a place where knowledge could reside.
It needs to be properly tested against the claims of its manufacturer, not ridiculed instead. The testing that could be done by Inland Reef Aquaria ought to serve as more than a simple analysis of this device. It could serve as an example of how to evaluate any device for aquarium use. We may think that this case is a "slam dunk" for evaluation of performance and think that testing is hardly even necessary. But instead it should serve as a good example of how to think intelligently about our aquariums and what is going on inside them. The function of many aquarium devices and methodologies are simply taken for granted.
I think it would surprise us all to learn than many of the things related to our aquariums are not what we think they are. This prospect has differing affects on hobbyists. For some it means a complete loss of direction, as if an explorer had their compass snatched from their hands. To others, it opens doorways to deeper understanding and gives pathways to success that were previously unimaginable.
Never forget that one of the most revolutionary devices of modern aquarium-keeping is a plastic sheet with holes in it - the undergravel filter. This monument to low-tech devices does exactly what it is designed to do with uncommon efficiency. It's sad that modern hobbyists who know nothing of undergravel filters, nor have ever used one, treat this device as some sort of comical "whipping-boy". They are incapable of intelligently thinking of it on its own terms, and so ignorance lives in a place where knowledge could reside.
I think the poweder must be the 'far infrared emitting ceramic', not cocaine.
And while this one really is a slam dunk, I agree with John and look forward to the continued results from the Inland Reef testing.
John, what other products do you think would shock us if we knew how they were made or worked?
And while this one really is a slam dunk, I agree with John and look forward to the continued results from the Inland Reef testing.
John, what other products do you think would shock us if we knew how they were made or worked?
PeeJ":1hov1fvg said:
PJ, the company that manufactures and markets the product should be expected to make a profit on it. The raw materials do not seem expensive but there are wages to be paid for the assembly and a myriad of expenses involved ranging from shipping boxes to salaries to insurance to taxes, etc. Businesses can be expensive to run and the only way for a product-based business to earn money is through the sale of the product itself. $70 is not too much to pay for a functioning water conditioning device, that is if it performs to the manufacturers claims.
PeeJ":1hov1fvg said:
I doubt it. But I want to see it fairly evaluated. Let it fail on its own terms, or rather on the manufacturers terms. I would even question the benefits of using large powerful magnets in applications like this. If you look earlier in this thread you will see postings by myself about evaluations of magnets used in other applications. They are in vogue right now for a variety of uses (health, personal empowerment, scale reduction in water systems, increased fuel mileage, etc.). Florscheim was sued and lost and was forced to change their marketing relating to health claims they made about magnets in their footwear.
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