Has anyone tried or heard of Eco Aqualizer??

[John_Brandt]

John, what other products do you think would shock us if we knew how they were made or worked?

Richard, that list would include almost anything for aquariums. The important question is, "Does it really do what the manufacturer claims it does?" Tools like screwdrivers are wonderful inventions and we have found multiple uses for them. But a screwdriver is made for just that, a driver of screws. If we use it to open paint cans (which they usually do quite well) and we don't like it's performance we can't exactly blame the manufacturer.

There are problems with workmanship and user-friendliness almost across the board on aquarium devices. A nicely-designed, functional piece of equipment is a jewel to be coveted in this hobby. It often seems to me that manufacturers cannot use their own inventions, otherwise they would immediately change aspects of their design. It should be a law within the hobby that manufacturers be forced to use their own products with aquariums full of animals that they love

Aquarium-related equipment, devices, supplies, etc. that deserve to be performance-tested include:

Eco-Aqualizer.
Grounding probes.
Hanging, canister and "wheel-type" devices as biological filters.
Hobbyist-sized fluidized bed filters.
Hobbyist-sized ultraviolet sterilizers.
Protein skimmers.
Trickle or wet/dry devices as biological filters.
Water pumps and powerheads as flow output and reliability.
Biological, chemical and mechanical medias.
Hobbyist test kits and electronic meters.
Lighting systems and lamps.
Foods.
Supplements and "nutrients".
Medications and substances used to control disease.
Algicides and cyanobacteria "remedies".
Source water purification devices.
Puffer pinching devices.
Bacteria and "cycling" additives.
Salt mixes.

I'm sure there are other things that could be added to this list.

 

[Anonymous]

Thans for the response John. Its nice to see you posting around the board. Holiday givin' you time? :mrgreen:

 

[PeeJ]

I agree fully...but i just think there are much better ways to attatch the magnets than electrical tape...I.E. heat shrink tubing...which would actually save time as it is 1000000% faster than wrapping tape.

 

[esmithiii]

John-

Our company adds magnets to our products, and they do, infact, add to the life of our products. We use magnets in the bottom of each transmission we build. The miraculously attract steel particles that would otherwise increase the wear of internal components.

The difference here is that we have a clear understanding of the physics, and years of empiral data supporting our claim that the magnets increase our products' functional life. The manufacturers and marketeers of the Aquaequalizer, on the other hand, do not have either.

Ernie

 

[John_Brandt]

Ernie, that is an excellent application for a magnet. I've seen what sticks to those magnetic drain plugs...wow!

But the all-time most brilliant and functional use for a magnet surely must be the Cow Magnet. Yes, once mankind invented the cow it had to invent the cow magnet. Forget spongy brains...imagine having the equivalent of a small foundry in your stomach!

What are Cow Magnets?

Cow magnets are popular with dairy farmers and veterinarians to help prevent Hardware Disease in their cattle. While grazing, cows eat everything from grass and dirt to nails, staples and bits of bailing wire (referred to as tramp iron). Tramp iron tends to lodge in the honeycombed walls of the recticulum, threatening the surrounding vital organs and causing irritation and inflammation, known as Hardware Disease. The cow loses her appetite and decreases her milk output (dairy cows), or her ability to gain weight (feeder stock). Cow magnets help prevent this disease by attracting stray metal from the folds and crevices of the rumen and recticulum. One magnet works for the life of the cow!

Ru-Master 5 Cow Magnet
Patent No. 5128644

The Ultimate Heavy Duty Cow Magnet!

The patented design of the Ru-Master 5 improves upon the quality and longevity of the original heavy duty rumen magnet. In comparison, the Ru-Master 5 is:

Durable: Its durable structure boasts plated, solid steel end caps for corrosion prevention and a solid steel connector rod through the core to reduce breakage in shipping and handling. No plastic parts involved.

Stronger: Magnetizaton before assembly creates a consistent pulling force from each section along the length of the magnet and enhances its overall strength.

Superior: Characteristically, the Ru-Master 5 has rounder ends and is slightly heavier than the original heavy duty cow magnet. These qualities make it easier for the magnet to travel to the stomach and stay there.

 

[Anonymous]

never in my wildest dreams would i have imagined the existence of such a product as the cow magnet, hehe

i remember an anti ich 'magic pillow' marketed in the 70's- fama gave it a product review, and found a penny inside

some things never change-like snakeoil salesmen :wink:

 

[liquid]

Yep, I remember seeing those on a neighbor's dairy farm.

Shane

 

[Quigonsean]

Remember the most important rule... It is immoral to let a fool keep his money..

Sean

 

[MattM]

Remember the most important rule... It is immoral to let a fool keep his money..

:lol:

My favorite is: "Let's face it, a fool and his money were pretty darned lucky to get together in the first place!"

 

[clyde]

jeeeeeezus

Im so stupid, I m being honest here..

first I was thinking, WTF ? rub that magnet on the udder or stomache ? how does it work, cows got 3 stomaches, then I thought, ahh right in the exit hole, but.. huh ?

then reading liquid's post - then BAM! right there - OH make the cow eat it.

but now, typing this, wouldnt the magnet come out ? I mean, how does it stay there ? is that black thing to put on the udder, to make magnet stay inside ?

god, I m a city slicker

Yep, I remember seeing those on a neighbor's dairy farm.

Shane

 

[esmithiii]

This is by far the most entertaining thread I have ever read outside the sump! Any more fun applications for magnets? Anyone watch Monk last night where the criminal used a large electromagnet to pull a weight-lifting bar onto his victim's throat from the floor below his penthouse apartment.

Seriously, unlike the aquaequalizer, even the cow magnet has some basis in generally accepted physics. It works basically the same way as the magnets in our transmissions. Same purpose, same physics. I never would have thought of it in a million years though.

Ernie

 

[esmithiii]

How about this one:http://www.magnetsource.com/Solutions_Pages/watermags.html

What is the physics behind that bad boy?

Ernie

 

[Anonymous]

Hmmmm, not sure there is any. I wasn't aware that magnets attracted mg or ca. Also, that product seems silly, if it worked wouldn't the pipe clog?

 

[MattM]

There are tons of companies selling magnets for water softening or water purification.

Try this google search: http://www.google.com/search?q=water+magnets

Then try this one: http://www.google.com/search?q=magnets+fraud+scam

A few choice words from the Federal Trade Commission:

Treatment Devices That do not Work

• Magnetic and electromagnetic water conditioners
• Electronic and electrolytic water conditioners
• Depressurizing units for scale control
• Catalytic devices for scale control
• Oscillations (vibrations) to prevent scaling
• Light Related Treatment Devices
• Far infrared (FIR) nonsense
• Photonic ionization

Also...

Why Scams Work

A high percentage of the general public is scientifically illiterate and cannot tell the difference in real science and pseudo-science.

Basic Characteristics of Scams

• Sound too good to be true
• Not based on clear proven scientific principles
• Have no peer-reviewed reputable support literature
• Have testimonials from crackpot pseudo-scientists
• Have fake testimonials from satisfied customers
• Pressure to purchase or invest immediately

Some valid water treatment methods

• Water softeners
• Membrane systems
• Reverse osmosis
• Electro-dialysis
• Water filters
• Distillation
• Desalination
• Centrifugal units

 

[PeeJ]

Well at least those magnets look beefy. I'd rather blow 70 bucks on some giant magnets than some damn watch batteries.

 

[John_Brandt]

Did you know that magnets can keep you alive forever? That would give you a lot of time to figure out what sort of system to use on your aquarium.


Alex Chiu's "Immortality Device"
US PATENT #5,989,178

"NEW INVENTION ALLOWS HUMANS TO LIVE FOREVER"
"Please believe me. Everything you read is true and is important. Now people do not have to age anymore."

http://alexchiu.com

 

[tazdevil]

I wasn't aware that magnets attracted mg or ca

Not ca, unsure about mg, I'll have to check my books some more. CA is not magnetically active-on MRI scanning it shows up black as it is inert towards magnetism. Living bone on the inside (the red/white marrow cavities) do show up, and that's why we can detect bone fractures on old people that xrays show no fracture. Next thing you know, someone's gonna make a uv sterilizer with magnets and electrolizing wiring that'll not only purify your tanks water, but will also peel the paint off your house and give you a permanent orange afro!!

(BTW, I'm not knocking UV sterilizer's-they are proven to sterilize things, question remains if only bad things get sterilized).


p.s. I don't want to live forever, things quit working well somewhere in the 70's, and much beyond 90, your happy if you can even achieve....... whoops, can't do that here, its not the SUMP

 

[Anonymous]

He he

RE: the immortality device, you MUST read his ideas on world peace! http://alexchiu.com/philosophy/corp.htm

 

[MattM]

It's hard to believe there is actually a patent on this. Of course, it doesn't have to be non-fraudulent to be patented:

"Patent Medicine" - The words "patent medicine" refer to products that were marketed, mostly in the 19th century, as medicines that would cure a host of diseases. Many of the diseases which these medicines were supposed to cure are still not curable today - cancer and diabetes, for example.

Many of the patent medicines contained alcohol (many of them were almost entirely alcoholic) and narcotics (such as morphine, cocaine and opium). These products certainly made the patient feel better for a time, but ran quite a bit short of their claims of being wonder cures for diseases ranging from the common cold to tuberculosis. The federal legislations of the early 20th century, both in the U.S. and Canada, in which manufacturers could not make false promises about their products, and had to list the ingredients in their bottles and pill boxes, served to bring about the near death of the entire industry.

In mid 18th century England, some producers of medical preparations applied for, and obtained, Royal Patents for their products. The patents protected the owners' rights to the products and gave some prestige to the medicines. Robert Turlington was one of the very first to receive a Royal Patent for his "Balsam of Life". Later on, the term patent medicine was applied to any of this type of product, whether patented or not.

I looked up the patent online. Here is the kind of nonsense that is contained in it:

The whole human body is a magnetic community. Each individual cell is a magnet and has polarities of North and South just like a regular magnet. That is why cells attract each other and form finally into a more complicated community, an animal body.

 

[hillbilly]

"Master Alex Chiu magnets only work for about 5 years then crashes like a DSB due to detrius buildup"!!!