Vendor Issues
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what was done to that person who doesn't pay vendor fees and undercut ronen WITH A MOD KNOWING ABOUT IT WHEN IT HAPPENED
ANSWER NOTHING HAPPENED TO EITHER ONE OF THEM
ronen is not pissed at one thing its many things that never get taken care of
does josh favor his mods?
why wasn't that user banned
why isn't this current problem being resolved?
just answer these very simple questions
now I can see why he gets so pissed and curses
no one here knows how to resolve any problems
so lets just ban deepwater and cover our butts by opening a thread and not letting him respond
what was done to that person who doesn't pay vendor fees and undercut ronen WITH A MOD KNOWING ABOUT IT WHEN IT HAPPENED
ANSWER NOTHING HAPPENED TO EITHER ONE OF THEM
ronen is not pissed at one thing its many things that never get taken care of
does josh favor his mods?
why wasn't that user banned
why isn't this current problem being resolved?
just answer these very simple questions
now I can see why he gets so pissed and curses
no one here knows how to resolve any problems
so lets just ban deepwater and cover our butts by opening a thread and not letting him respond
Here,
Now lets look into what was just expressed by me and what you are saying again for the 22nd time... No, nothing had been done to that other member (dare I say it) for what he did to Ronen (even though there are no expressed RULES for dealing with that situation). That member does not have to have anything DONE to them. SO what is your point? If you are arguing the merits of the staff and Josh you have no grounds. As you say rules are rules. Now if you are trying to get changes made so that this wont happen again, you will have to wait until (like I said) we get together and make some adjustments to the rules...
Stop busting balls and try to understand that this might take some time. Try to look at it this way. Ronen, by him getting banned and sacrificing himself, might have made it better for YOU, the members and the rest of the Vendors.
IF by chance you are trying to inflame the situation I would sugest that you stop and see if it is really the best thing if all you are interested in is the well being of the site and Ronen.
Also any problems from you may have can be addressed by sending an email to the Administration as Josh has already said. Immediate probs can be dealt with by the mods via PM or thread notification.
Ronen gets pissed and curses when he orders breakfast. So please!! He's not being persecuted so stop the tirade! Last I talked to him he was ready and willing to get over this if some things can be worked out. It's not like he is on the outside looking in while we bury him.
Oh and by the way, I hope Josh favors the MODS since we get all the flack from the rest of the site and keep him shielded from it most times. Think of him as G W Bush and I am his Condy (please somebody make a photoshop of this one)
Kasei
Now lets look into what was just expressed by me and what you are saying again for the 22nd time... No, nothing had been done to that other member (dare I say it) for what he did to Ronen (even though there are no expressed RULES for dealing with that situation). That member does not have to have anything DONE to them. SO what is your point? If you are arguing the merits of the staff and Josh you have no grounds. As you say rules are rules. Now if you are trying to get changes made so that this wont happen again, you will have to wait until (like I said) we get together and make some adjustments to the rules...
Stop busting balls and try to understand that this might take some time. Try to look at it this way. Ronen, by him getting banned and sacrificing himself, might have made it better for YOU, the members and the rest of the Vendors.
IF by chance you are trying to inflame the situation I would sugest that you stop and see if it is really the best thing if all you are interested in is the well being of the site and Ronen.
Also any problems from you may have can be addressed by sending an email to the Administration as Josh has already said. Immediate probs can be dealt with by the mods via PM or thread notification.
Ronen gets pissed and curses when he orders breakfast. So please!! He's not being persecuted so stop the tirade! Last I talked to him he was ready and willing to get over this if some things can be worked out. It's not like he is on the outside looking in while we bury him.
Oh and by the way, I hope Josh favors the MODS since we get all the flack from the rest of the site and keep him shielded from it most times. Think of him as G W Bush and I am his Condy (please somebody make a photoshop of this one)
Kasei
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Joe, have you sent an email to [email protected] ? If you have, have you gotten a response? Did you PM Josh personally and state the facts? What was his response?
None of us get paid for this. It's not our full time job, so we get the work done here in our free time. Sometimes we don't have the immediate time to jump on and work on things. Plus, we don't read every post. So if you have a valid concern, start a thread, PM all the mods, report a post, and if all else fails, email [email protected]
We'll let you know we're working on it.
B
None of us get paid for this. It's not our full time job, so we get the work done here in our free time. Sometimes we don't have the immediate time to jump on and work on things. Plus, we don't read every post. So if you have a valid concern, start a thread, PM all the mods, report a post, and if all else fails, email [email protected]
We'll let you know we're working on it.
B
Pseudo> I do hope you're more competent than Condi!! :fishhit::tank:
About the signature: I don't know why it's not showing up. But if it was removed by the moderators I suspect the link to it would also have been removed. Sometimes computers do things like that - and the site did crash yesterday. How many times have I posted a pic in a friend's profile on MySpace only to have it vanish from the profile but not from the internet. That's modern technology for you - we can send a man to the Moon, but sometimes links corrupt and fail. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. :pimp:
About the signature: I don't know why it's not showing up. But if it was removed by the moderators I suspect the link to it would also have been removed. Sometimes computers do things like that - and the site did crash yesterday. How many times have I posted a pic in a friend's profile on MySpace only to have it vanish from the profile but not from the internet. That's modern technology for you - we can send a man to the Moon, but sometimes links corrupt and fail. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. :pimp:
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K - Man, your first post was nice, its good to see your still qwelling stuff on the board.
Joe,
I hadn't realized what this was about until you explained, from what you said it has to do with a group buy for skimmers but if thats what this is all about then yall wasted a lot of time on some bs. If the organizer of the group buy is making money is it really a group buy? The point of the group buy is for the participants to get the product at the lowest price possible. So say you go to premium aquatics and you find out champion is cheaper, oh well for premium aquatics. Theres a shady area when a vendor leads or pushes the group buy because if you can get it cheaper somewhere else, oh well, you really think I'm paying more for same thing. So whats all this for? The questions you should be asking is why was Ronen able to get undercut on a group buy which he was on the thread pushing? And there are people on this site who got screwed over a lot worse than that before and there wasn't all this drama. To name one, Daceman got a bunch of people deltecs for maddd cheap and he got screwed every which way, no way around it from one of the participants which ended up with the loss of a deltec license. No thread about it, no bitchin.
I've never met Reefoman, I've never brought anything from Reefoman and I would be quicker to buy something from Ronen (which I have) before I buy from Reefoman, he could be an ass, I have no idea. But maybe you don't know or don't remember that reefoman was a vendor on this site and isn't now. He stopped coming around after he got called a racist and nazi by another vendor and religous avatars started popping up everywhere. Any guess which vendor was callin out the names? I ain't never seen a vendor on this site get treated like the way Reefoman did, there were no private conversations or questions, he just got blasted. Maybe the other vendor didn't know calling him out like that would end Reefoman's vendor status here, I don't know. But if you think undercuting in a group buy is bad how bout being ran off the board.
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/general-discussion/8676-laws.html?highlight=by-laws
And whats up with all the swinging on Jim, he didn't have anything to do with that skimmer group buy. Yall acting like he ordered, picked up and deliver those things.
BTW Happy Father's Day.
Joe,
I hadn't realized what this was about until you explained, from what you said it has to do with a group buy for skimmers but if thats what this is all about then yall wasted a lot of time on some bs. If the organizer of the group buy is making money is it really a group buy? The point of the group buy is for the participants to get the product at the lowest price possible. So say you go to premium aquatics and you find out champion is cheaper, oh well for premium aquatics. Theres a shady area when a vendor leads or pushes the group buy because if you can get it cheaper somewhere else, oh well, you really think I'm paying more for same thing. So whats all this for? The questions you should be asking is why was Ronen able to get undercut on a group buy which he was on the thread pushing? And there are people on this site who got screwed over a lot worse than that before and there wasn't all this drama. To name one, Daceman got a bunch of people deltecs for maddd cheap and he got screwed every which way, no way around it from one of the participants which ended up with the loss of a deltec license. No thread about it, no bitchin.
I've never met Reefoman, I've never brought anything from Reefoman and I would be quicker to buy something from Ronen (which I have) before I buy from Reefoman, he could be an ass, I have no idea. But maybe you don't know or don't remember that reefoman was a vendor on this site and isn't now. He stopped coming around after he got called a racist and nazi by another vendor and religous avatars started popping up everywhere. Any guess which vendor was callin out the names? I ain't never seen a vendor on this site get treated like the way Reefoman did, there were no private conversations or questions, he just got blasted. Maybe the other vendor didn't know calling him out like that would end Reefoman's vendor status here, I don't know. But if you think undercuting in a group buy is bad how bout being ran off the board.
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/general-discussion/8676-laws.html?highlight=by-laws
And whats up with all the swinging on Jim, he didn't have anything to do with that skimmer group buy. Yall acting like he ordered, picked up and deliver those things.
BTW Happy Father's Day.
Joe,
If we are going to put everything out in the open, you should mention to the people that don't know, that you & Ronen are brothers. Which is totally cool because I would defend my younger brothers to the death.
MR is only a business to those that want it to be a business. I've mentioned it before, the best thing for this site would be to get rid of the whole "Craigslist section". I joined this site to make friends with local reefers.
As members we should all go forward with the intent of keeping this site a community of reefers.
Steven
If we are going to put everything out in the open, you should mention to the people that don't know, that you & Ronen are brothers. Which is totally cool because I would defend my younger brothers to the death.
MR is only a business to those that want it to be a business. I've mentioned it before, the best thing for this site would be to get rid of the whole "Craigslist section". I joined this site to make friends with local reefers.
As members we should all go forward with the intent of keeping this site a community of reefers.
Steven
Ok,
Here how this is going to go. I am closing this thread. For the sake of full disclosure. This was agreed upon after a few discussions with Ronen and Josh. This is not the end of this thread or discussion. We all came to the conclusion that this was not being handled in the best way and everyone was interjecting without knowing all the facts.
Ronen is a good and honest vendor and has not had any problems with us (The Administration of MR) and this situation has nothing to do with business practices. Furthermore this will be handled with proper mediation between Ronen and Josh and the rest of the Moderators.
We hope to come to an amicable conclusion soon so as to continue having the best of all worlds between the Admin, Vendors and Membership. Please dont bother asking what is going on as you will all know when this is resolved and you all will be notified.
I would hazard to guess that you should expect some rules to change on the board that will affect how the site is run.
Thanks for your patience in this matter,
Kasei
Moderator
Here how this is going to go. I am closing this thread. For the sake of full disclosure. This was agreed upon after a few discussions with Ronen and Josh. This is not the end of this thread or discussion. We all came to the conclusion that this was not being handled in the best way and everyone was interjecting without knowing all the facts.
Ronen is a good and honest vendor and has not had any problems with us (The Administration of MR) and this situation has nothing to do with business practices. Furthermore this will be handled with proper mediation between Ronen and Josh and the rest of the Moderators.
We hope to come to an amicable conclusion soon so as to continue having the best of all worlds between the Admin, Vendors and Membership. Please dont bother asking what is going on as you will all know when this is resolved and you all will be notified.
I would hazard to guess that you should expect some rules to change on the board that will affect how the site is run.
Thanks for your patience in this matter,
Kasei
Moderator
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