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MaryHM

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David,

Thank you for finally responding to my questions. If the answers are all as easy as you make them seem in this letter, then I have a hard time understanding why it took over a month and a half to compose a response.

Nemo: I understand you using the Nemo as an opportunity to promote responsible reefkeeping. I just think that telling people to "look for MAC certified animals" is jumping the gun a bit when probably less than .000001% of the fish available (or less) are MAC certified. But hey, that's your call. Where is the magnet card you mentioned available? From my understanding, it was distributed at the premiere of Nemo.

CDT: It is understandable that you have to act with organizations outside of MAC to implement the CDT. What is not understandable is why you waited so long to coordinate with them (well after you began certifying fish) and why you set deadlines that you can't reach (especially when you know people are already highly critical of MAC).

Resource Assessments: Just because you say that the assessments have been carried out on both MAC certified areas, doesn't mean that it has to be done in the future. This is from your own standards. You say it is now a requirement for all future areas- is this before or after certification is given?

MAC Certified Importers Responsibility: Glad to hear that you are finally addressing this issue. My main concern is that retailers are aware of this BEFORE they purchase the fish. If the information is on their invoice, they won't be aware of it until after the fish are purchased. I think a notation on the stocklist is the best way of handling this to prevent any confusion. A notation on the invoice should remain as well.

Improper Use of the MAC Label: If it comes to prosecution, where will the money for that come from?

Frankly, I don't expect a response to any of the above questions. Just consider them food for thought or for the trashcan, whichever you prefer. There are a few questions that I would like a response to. You said this earlier:
"Increasing supply that can be certified is the primary focus of our efforts and supply WILL catch up to the demand."

Obviously increasing supply means opening up new areas. These new areas will be in need of training and netting material. How is MAC planning on addressing this? Do you have a training team in place? Do they have the materials they need?

Thank you,
Mary Middlebrook
 

MaryHM

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Here's an interesting tid-bit:

The hobbyists are up in arms about the Early Show/Tetra fiasco. Way more up in arms about that than about cyanide use, but that's another story.... Anyway, some of them emailed MAC. They received responses from Sylvia Spaulding (PR person) and Mr. Holthus himself. Turn around time for a response? ONE DAY.
 

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I don't see a way for me to completely delete a post, so I'll put an editorial comment in. This was in response to someone saying that the response time was due to my unpopularity at MAC headquarters. That person deleted their post.

Back to that again? I thought we had cleared up this "it's not the message, it's the messenger" baloney when a few other people sent in the same questions and still haven't received a response.
 

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John,
That shark eating the dog gif is way cool. Also it is not that hard to believe that Paul is upset with Mary.
 
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Would that magic trick be called "dodging the quote gun"? Enquiring minds want to know!
 

dizzy

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There was something about a former golden child and a German shepard jumping into a shark's mouth and poof it disappeared. Weird or maybe I was daydreaming again.
 
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MaryHM":3mrhsihf said:
I don't see a way for me to completely delete a post, so I'll put an editorial comment in. This was in response to someone saying that the response time was due to my unpopularity at MAC headquarters. That person deleted their post.

Back to that again? I thought we had cleared up this "it's not the message, it's the messenger" baloney when a few other people sent in the same questions and still haven't received a response.
A quick response would have saved them 14 pages of bad press. I guess they are followers of the rule than any press is good press.
 

MaryHM

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Well, I guess we get to see if they learned anything with this last go around. How long will it take to get a response to my followup questions? Let the countdown begin....
 
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MaryHM":2qwq7fbn said:
Well, I guess we get to see if they learned anything with this last go around. How long will it take to get a response to my followup questions? Let the countdown begin....

Hrm...I'm predicting a month-and-a-half. :D

BTW, love the new avatar, Mary...what inspired you to choose that one?

:lol:

Peace,

Chip
 

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I had mentioned what I thought to be the reason why Paul took so long to respond to Mary (in fact Paul never did respond to Mary). Moderators need to be model forum citizens, not people like y'all :wink:

So I decided to delete it.
 

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Mitch,

Though you are fond of your conspiracy theories, you weren't imagining things.

This actual video footage should remind us all to look through the peephole before opening the front door!
 

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John_Brandt":38pbt43t said:
I had mentioned what I thought to be the reason why Paul took so long to respond to Mary (in fact Paul never did respond to Mary). Moderators need to be model forum citizens, not people like y'all :wink:

So I decided to delete it.

ROTFLMAOPMP! :lol:

What a joke.

Jenn
 

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MaryHM":2kaylznp said:
Here's an interesting tid-bit:

The hobbyists are up in arms about the Early Show/Tetra fiasco. Way more up in arms about that than about cyanide use, but that's another story.... Anyway, some of them emailed MAC. They received responses from Sylvia Spaulding (PR person) and Mr. Holthus himself. Turn around time for a response? ONE DAY.

I am very disappointed to read this for a couple of reasons.

Both Sylvia and Mr. Holthus should be commended not criticized for offering to talk to Tetra about the major PR plunder they are suffering.

Secondly, it was the hobbyists who I believe within 3 days raised most of the money you requested to purchase nets for former cyanide-use fishers.
 
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naesco":l7zwh8pz said:
...talk to Tetra about the major PR plunder they are suffering.

Major PR plunder? Like gold and jewels and Spanish doubloons?

Cooooooool!

Would Paul take a month and a half to respond to questions if *I* e-mailed him?

As far as Tetra...they made their choice when they spread misinformation over national television that could possibly lead to the deaths of thousands of fish. Now let them pay the price for what they did. Any bad PR they suffer they have earned.

Peace,

Chip
 

MaryHM

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MaryHM wrote:
Here's an interesting tid-bit:

The hobbyists are up in arms about the Early Show/Tetra fiasco. Way more up in arms about that than about cyanide use, but that's another story.... Anyway, some of them emailed MAC. They received responses from Sylvia Spaulding (PR person) and Mr. Holthus himself. Turn around time for a response? ONE DAY.


I am very disappointed to read this for a couple of reasons.

Both Sylvia and Mr. Holthus should be commended not criticized for offering to talk to Tetra about the major PR plunder they are suffering.

Secondly, it was the hobbyists who I believe within 3 days raised most of the money you requested to purchase nets for former cyanide-use fishers.

Naesco, here is why we are having problems in this forum. You are putting words in my mouth and then getting "disappointed" over your own incorrect assumptions.

First, I'm not criticizing MAC for offering to talk to Tetra. Where in the world did I mention or even imply that?? Check the post- I DIDN'T. I was pointing out the fact that it took them one day to respond to the hobbyists, but a month and a half to respond to me. I was criticizing them for taking so bloomin' long to address the issues I and others brought to their attention. Second, I am extremely appreciative of the hobbyists and industry people who contributed to the net fund. However, can you honestly tell me that hobbyists are more up in arms about cyanide use than they are about what Tetra did?? You don't see hobbyists emailing, calling, faxing, and demanding a boycott of companies supporting the cyanide trade. That was my point.
 

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John_Brandt":3vtz2jc0 said:
Mitch,
Though you are fond of your conspiracy theories, you weren't imagining things.


John I ask a couple of questions, speculate a little on how things could end up down the road, and your comparing me to Hillary Clinton. 8O I guess the lurking moderator thing makes me paranoid. Come on out where we can see you.
 

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